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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1122754" data-attributes="member: 151">Right, which is what I thought I pointed out.&nbsp; You implied that CN was good &quot;by default&quot;, which I disagreed with.&nbsp; We may just have to agree to disagree, though, since you consider Han Solo to be CN, and I consider him to be the poster child from CG.&nbsp; Oh sure, he talks a good game, but actions speak louder than words, and his actions are pure CG.&nbsp; The only case that could be made is choosing not to take Ben and Luke's offer...but considering they were wanted fugitives attempting to avoid the lawful authorities notice, I'm not sure that I'd qualify them that way.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;As to main topic, the Victorians could be considered an excellent example of a LG society that had sex discretely and often.&nbsp; The issue of having sex while unmarried and it's relative morality it entirely based on societal mores.&nbsp; In that society, and many others, it was considered acceptable for certain members of society to behave in such behaviors.&nbsp; But let's not confuse the behavior of nobles with society in general, which may not have had the same mores.&nbsp;As for the rules of medieval society, I'd recommend reading Magical Medieval Europe.&nbsp; Peasants had more rights than you might think, and nobles were just as bound, in their way, as their vassals.&nbsp; Separating fact from fiction about the past is a big task, and one I certainly haven't mastered.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1122754, member: 151"] Right, which is what I thought I pointed out. You implied that CN was good "by default", which I disagreed with. We may just have to agree to disagree, though, since you consider Han Solo to be CN, and I consider him to be the poster child from CG. Oh sure, he talks a good game, but actions speak louder than words, and his actions are pure CG. The only case that could be made is choosing not to take Ben and Luke's offer...but considering they were wanted fugitives attempting to avoid the lawful authorities notice, I'm not sure that I'd qualify them that way. As to main topic, the Victorians could be considered an excellent example of a LG society that had sex discretely and often. The issue of having sex while unmarried and it's relative morality it entirely based on societal mores. In that society, and many others, it was considered acceptable for certain members of society to behave in such behaviors. But let's not confuse the behavior of nobles with society in general, which may not have had the same mores. As for the rules of medieval society, I'd recommend reading Magical Medieval Europe. Peasants had more rights than you might think, and nobles were just as bound, in their way, as their vassals. Separating fact from fiction about the past is a big task, and one I certainly haven't mastered. [/QUOTE]

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