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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doctor Futurity" data-source="post: 7720858" data-attributes="member: 10738">Hussar, I figured out why your posts bug me: you're taking a negative "can't do" approach and I keep asking you to look at the other side. We're talking about the same glass, but you see it as half empty and I see it as half full. Where I've gamed 36 years and never run into a Realmslore dude so "in to it" that he couldn't abide my much looser and less informed version of the Realms, you refuse to even consider the possibility of a setting on the rare chance such a guy might show up.Again, I ask you: I know what setting intimidate you, worry you. You're very clear on that, and I understand that these settings appear to be insurmountable to you. But as a GM, surely you must have some setting of some sort that might appeal?And, speaking as a guy who 95% of the time only works with my own homebrew settings....remember, those take the most work of all and have the least innate familiarity. So based on your last sentence, doing it yourself is, ultimately, the hardest path to take. Just saying. You don't seem to give yourself enough credit, man.(EDIT: also, I'm still baffled that you think your version of FR would somehow not be correct. I hate to break it to you but....in the world fiction, and especially game settings....it's arguable that literally the only person out there who could lay claim to "doing it right" is Ed Greenwood himself (or Howard, or Lucas, or Tolkien, etc.; in fact by your standard here, the new Star Wars movies are not going to pass muster since they are not being made by George Lucas, ergo anything derived from them is not recognizably Star Wars; just proper nouns, if even that). And based on all I know, not even his own home game looks like the published beast we all know about. So you've created an insurmountable wall for yourself....but we're all down here at the bottom walking through these big convenient holes and getting it done just fine. This leaves me with one last question.....do you actually have some Crazy, Freaky FR Lore Dude who haunts your games? I'm starting to think so.)Last comment, and then I'm done: I just can't take your argument seriously. Every case you state feels like moving the cheese another foot. Your original set Grey Box Forgotten Realms example: it's arguably to many the only boxed set you could get a coherent campaign out of that is closest to how the creator of that setting does it, for example. I owned that set, and it gives you plenty of information to set games in FR in that time period. A guy from the 4th or 5th edition era of that setting in terms of his lore can't invalidate what you are doing, because you're using an accurate boxed set from an earlier time period. Even if you told him that nothing after "year X" happened as it did later on....it's still Forgotten Realms. It really is. You are far too hung up on some strange specificity about how a setting or property should be represented, and I don't think you've really thought your own arguments through on this, especially since they sound so preposterous. My suspicion here is this has to do with something else entirely, either a personal dislike of settings like FR and others that accumulate such a large body of lore, or a dislike of some certain fans of these settings which left you with a bad taste in your mouth, or maybe you have a very, very narrow definition of what you consider "appropriate representation" of a property in fiction, one which is so specific that it prevents you from recognizing that your arguments are predicated on a narrow set of imaginary assumptions --such as: my using the original FR boxed set will not be seen as "FR" by someone with familiarity beyond that boxed set....which is just....fuuu I don't even know how to explain to you how weird and illogical that is. I give up.</blockquote>

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