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Licensees not going to 4e because of poor sales?
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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4418525" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>Where are you getting these "facts" from, because as far as I know WotC doesn't release sales information on their games.</p><p></p><p>I will say I think that WotC, like any company, is concerned with their image and marketing. Making it appear, whether true or not, that their product is selling like hotcakes is in their best interest... especially with the release of a new edition and the fact that D&D has to be played in a group. Thus their customers have a greater incentive to buy if the perception that "everyone" is jumping on the bandwagon as opposed to some people or even a majority. </p><p></p><p>I also think this discounting of the internet audience which has become such a popular meme on the boards may not be how WotC is necessarily thinking... given that a big part of their revenue stream is based upon this audience (the DDI). So I would say how their products are being perceived on the net is definitely a concern for them.</p><p></p><p>On a Side Note: I noticed during that first week of release we had Scott Rouse post a thread about D&D 4e being on the Washington Post and USA best sellers list...I'm curious because there was no follow up to that thread and if my memory serves me the 3.5 DMG actually hit a higher position and stayed on the list longer than the D&D 4e one did. But I admit, I could be wrong...it would be great if someone from WotC could follow this up and let us know how they compared overall.</p><p></p><p>In the end... I think this (below) is a more reasonable look at whether D&D 4e is successful or not... </p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally if I continue playing 4e... I just don't see myself buying into most of their releases... I have no interest in the FR (and am a little irritated a new base class is being placed exclusively in the FRPHB), Their fluff has always failed to inspire me, and thus the only book I might possibly buy is PHB 2. Now the only thing keeping me even remotely interested in 4e is the possibility of Earthdawn... if not for this I would probably just keep my corebooks and not buy anything else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 4418525, member: 48965"] Where are you getting these "facts" from, because as far as I know WotC doesn't release sales information on their games. I will say I think that WotC, like any company, is concerned with their image and marketing. Making it appear, whether true or not, that their product is selling like hotcakes is in their best interest... especially with the release of a new edition and the fact that D&D has to be played in a group. Thus their customers have a greater incentive to buy if the perception that "everyone" is jumping on the bandwagon as opposed to some people or even a majority. I also think this discounting of the internet audience which has become such a popular meme on the boards may not be how WotC is necessarily thinking... given that a big part of their revenue stream is based upon this audience (the DDI). So I would say how their products are being perceived on the net is definitely a concern for them. On a Side Note: I noticed during that first week of release we had Scott Rouse post a thread about D&D 4e being on the Washington Post and USA best sellers list...I'm curious because there was no follow up to that thread and if my memory serves me the 3.5 DMG actually hit a higher position and stayed on the list longer than the D&D 4e one did. But I admit, I could be wrong...it would be great if someone from WotC could follow this up and let us know how they compared overall. In the end... I think this (below) is a more reasonable look at whether D&D 4e is successful or not... Personally if I continue playing 4e... I just don't see myself buying into most of their releases... I have no interest in the FR (and am a little irritated a new base class is being placed exclusively in the FRPHB), Their fluff has always failed to inspire me, and thus the only book I might possibly buy is PHB 2. Now the only thing keeping me even remotely interested in 4e is the possibility of Earthdawn... if not for this I would probably just keep my corebooks and not buy anything else. [/QUOTE]
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