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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6190209" data-attributes="member: 2525">Except, there is...the membership in the DDI message board does accurately fluctuate depending on when people join and loose access.  This has been experimented with pretty extensively at this point.  The only thing we don't know is how many people insist on an unsubscribe from that forum while remaining subscribers to DDI...so the number can only under-report, and not over-report.  But, it's an accurate "floor" for the number of subscribers.No it's not.  It's not based on a report from them at all.  It's based on a ticker attached to a particular automated forum subscription.  In fact, I don't recall ANY self-reporting from WOTC.  Do you have a link to such a statement?They are automated, people have experimented and proven they are automated, and it DOES fluctuate frequently.  You can test it yourself if you like.  Check the number, then subscribe to DDI, then check the number again, then cancel, and then once you get the notification of cancellation check the number once again.  You will see it alters with each event.It's not fatally flawed, it's merely a useful data point which is entirely not contained within the larger "Pathfinder outsold WOTC in books" argument.  It's certainly an important data point, and it does involve both a very large source of revenue, and a large source of profits, for WOTC.  Pretending it doesn't exist because it's difficult to measure isn't helpful.It generates lots of money.  How much profit is in dispute.  That it's not enough profit to satisfy WOTC is not in dispute, but then how much profit satisfies WOTC is not the same as how much profit would satisfy another company like Paizo.</blockquote>

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