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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6195834" data-attributes="member: 7006">I don't doubt that open gaming has had this big of an impact on you as a consumer.  But the real question is though... is how many other people actually see things the way you do?  Enough such that it makes an actually noticeable difference in the sales of 5E?  Maybe I'm cynical, but I don't think it's really that much of a factor in the grand scheme of things, despite what people say.I mean let's be honest... besides the OGL, what were the two other reasons people said they wouldn't support WotC and/or 4E?1) It was the "badwrongfun" attitude that they supposedly gave off when they introduced 4E.  But they've made it a point to change that during these open playtest months, and are trying to make the game as inclusive as possible.  But I don't believe we've heard nearly the same number of people giving WotC credit for this attitude change and their word that they will give 5E a fair shake, as we did the number of people caterwauling against them back in '07 and '08.2)  It was not having any D&D products available for download that made countless people scream out that they would never support WotC so long as they had these byzantine attitudes and hatred towards their customers.  But now that Wizards have released all their old material in PDF form... I don't recall seeing nearly the same amount of people on boards like this saying they are now coming back to WotC's D&D because of it.Now is my memory possibly a bit faulty on my recollections on the numbers and strident attitudes of people back in the transition to 4E?  Maybe.  But at the same time... I honestly don't think so.  I really think that anyone who was here during that time would agree that the amount of time, energy, and anger spent on ripping WotC a new one for the "badwrongfun" and the removal of the PDFs far, far outweighed the time, energy, and thankfulness people have had towards WotC for changing their stances on both of those point.  I mean hell... we STILL get people complaining about the tired "skip the guards to get to the fun" statement Wyatt made.So I'm sorry... but I just don't see how changing their stance on the OGL would really have any substantive impact on people's attitudes towards WotC enough to actually generate substantial additional sales of 5E over what they'd get without it... since their changes to the other two have not seemed to create a giant groundswell of support either.But like I said.. maybe I'm just cynical.</blockquote>

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