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<blockquote data-quote="Grogg of the North" data-source="post: 5716172" data-attributes="member: 6682960"><p>It sounds like this may be a campaign ender. Are the players okay with this and just the characters would be against it? If the players may react poorly, I strongly urge you to reconsider. Otherwise....</p><p></p><p></p><p>For the first point:</p><p></p><p>Gentle Repose every couple of days will keep you looking fresh and healthy.</p><p></p><p>Mindblank will prevent him from detecting your evil auras or that you're undead. And its just fun to have active. Magical Aura should be able to "cover up" any magic on you. </p><p></p><p>Otherwise, when preparing for the rites don't let your cleric know what you're up to or have him catch you in the act.</p><p></p><p></p><p>For the second point:</p><p></p><p>Hide your phylactery somewhere hard to find. A Leomund's Chest, some sort of pocket dimension, or give it to your god (if they're into that kinda thing). If they can't find your phylactery they can't kill you.</p><p></p><p>There should be an armor enchantment in BoVD that protects you against anything that specifically does extra damage to Evil creatures. I think Libris Mortis may have something that will protect you against the effects of a Disrupting weapon. </p><p></p><p>Turning is easy to get around. Take the holy symbol and hide/destroy it. </p><p></p><p>If its just you against the cleric, cast silence on yourself (an oil would work too) and stick close to the cleric. Silence means that there is no spells involved so just start touching. </p><p></p><p></p><p>For the Third Point:</p><p></p><p>Don't over think this. Wait till its the end of the day and your cleric is low on spells and resting. Get out a scythe and Coup de Grace while he's asleep.</p><p></p><p>Or you could dominate the fighter or rogue and have them do it. </p><p></p><p>If he's designed to fight undead, then his saves are pretty good so I'd try to avoid casting Save or Lose/Die on him directly. If you somehow manage to mind control him, see if you can get him to commit some sort of Heresy and get him to fall.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, and more theatrically, take hostages. Use his goodly compassionate nature against him. "Swear you'll leave me be or I'll kill (pick any) this town, your priestly brothers, your family and friends, or something else." It isn't as "glorious" as combat but still works and would be the route I'd take. If you can get them to be magically bound by the oath even better.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure there are other people here that can give you a more detailed run down of the crunchy pvp mechanics and how to better min/max it than I.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grogg of the North, post: 5716172, member: 6682960"] It sounds like this may be a campaign ender. Are the players okay with this and just the characters would be against it? If the players may react poorly, I strongly urge you to reconsider. Otherwise.... For the first point: Gentle Repose every couple of days will keep you looking fresh and healthy. Mindblank will prevent him from detecting your evil auras or that you're undead. And its just fun to have active. Magical Aura should be able to "cover up" any magic on you. Otherwise, when preparing for the rites don't let your cleric know what you're up to or have him catch you in the act. For the second point: Hide your phylactery somewhere hard to find. A Leomund's Chest, some sort of pocket dimension, or give it to your god (if they're into that kinda thing). If they can't find your phylactery they can't kill you. There should be an armor enchantment in BoVD that protects you against anything that specifically does extra damage to Evil creatures. I think Libris Mortis may have something that will protect you against the effects of a Disrupting weapon. Turning is easy to get around. Take the holy symbol and hide/destroy it. If its just you against the cleric, cast silence on yourself (an oil would work too) and stick close to the cleric. Silence means that there is no spells involved so just start touching. For the Third Point: Don't over think this. Wait till its the end of the day and your cleric is low on spells and resting. Get out a scythe and Coup de Grace while he's asleep. Or you could dominate the fighter or rogue and have them do it. If he's designed to fight undead, then his saves are pretty good so I'd try to avoid casting Save or Lose/Die on him directly. If you somehow manage to mind control him, see if you can get him to commit some sort of Heresy and get him to fall. Lastly, and more theatrically, take hostages. Use his goodly compassionate nature against him. "Swear you'll leave me be or I'll kill (pick any) this town, your priestly brothers, your family and friends, or something else." It isn't as "glorious" as combat but still works and would be the route I'd take. If you can get them to be magically bound by the oath even better. I'm sure there are other people here that can give you a more detailed run down of the crunchy pvp mechanics and how to better min/max it than I. [/QUOTE]
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