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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BoldItalic" data-source="post: 6783384" data-attributes="member: 6777052">But Proficiencies are class features. Whether they are listed between "Hit Points" and "Equipment" on one page, or under "Bonus Proficiencies" on a domain or other archetype page, makes no difference. They are all listed under the big "Class Features" heading.The proficiencies that a single-classed Life Cleric gains at level one are the proficiencies it starts with, are they not? They are its starting proficiencies. And the multiclassing rules say that you only gain some of the classes starting proficiencies, as explicitly listed in the table. They don't talk about "base class proficiencies" at all; they don't distinguish proficiencies depending on which page they appear on, they just talk about starting proficiences. In the table, no class grants heavy armour proficiency and it therefore follows, in my reading, that you can't gain heavy armour proficiency by multiclassing at all. If you want heavy armour proficiency, it has to come from your first class or from a feat.If you feel that nerfs your multiclassing builds, well, sorry, but hey! as long as your DM allows it, you're good to go. But arguing that "everyone has to interpret the rules in such a way as to allow my build" is unconvincing to me.I have no problem with you multiclassing into Life Cleric and taking the Heavily Armored feat in place of your next ability score increase (though you can't do be doing both at the same time, obviously). For example, a Ranger-3 levels up and multiclasses into Life Cleric-1, then next level-up takes Ranger-4 and gets the feat. You then have a Ranger-4/Life Cleric-1 with Heavy Armor proficiency. It just takes a bit of management.Multiclassing is not a dodge to beat the system. It comes at a cost.</blockquote>

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