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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6783603" data-attributes="member: 5834">From what I've read, you are the one pushing a house rule unless you can somehow prove that abilities aren't granted according to class levels for archetypes. And I very much doubt that you can.So your viewpoint is contradicted by the rules until you prove that character level applies to archetypes. You can house rule as you like if you feel domain abilities seem to be tramping on your idea of the fighter and paladin being the only ones that should gain heavy armor when multiclassing. I wouldn't expect any official support given the PHB is written and the designers tend to rule in favor of the rule as written. And archetypes all use class level, not character level. Not a single archetype uses character level.I even had this clarified for warlock invocations. All the level requirements for warlock invocations are based on class level, not character level, even though it does not explicitly state this. I doubt any archetype abilities of any class will be ruled otherwise including cleric domain abilities.</blockquote>