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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ganymede81" data-source="post: 6814744" data-attributes="member: 6812267">I do not find this to be a convincing argument.The fact that something can be a class feature and grant a proficiency is not an actual rules problem from the Multiclassing perspective as both can be true at the same time. The Nature Domain is a Cleric class feature, which is allowed by the multiclassing rules, but also grants a skill proficiency, which is disallowed under the multiclassing rules. There is no inherent contradiction. (I suppose you could argue that the rules mean the proficiency is both allowed and disallowed at the same time, but then arguing for some sort of Schrodinger's proficiency doesn't exactly help your case.)I think the best counter-argument here is to point out how it impacts the first level Knowledge Domain feature. That feature grants proficiency in two skills, and then gives expertise to those skills. The way it is worded, denying proficiency would subsequently deny the expertise. One can fairly argue that denying first level proficiencies granted by class features makes sense, but it is harder to argue that Knowledge Clerics should be denied their expertise.</blockquote>