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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6642170" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>True. They are different views. But the bolded [by me] statement above kind of goes against every book of mythology and ancient religions I've ever seen...and in/as interpreted by D&D.</p><p></p><p>They were not "polytheistic" in a Greco-Roman sense of worshiping in grand temples or overtly constructed religions. But they had deities...even to the point of "living" ones. The gods walked the earth if they so chose. Or "walked/rode" across the skies. They were understood to have influence over the natural world and people's lives or fates, even directly/personally if they so chose. They might "pray to"/seek aid from them [in whatever form that might take]. They certainly made sacrifice at different times of year/for different significant [arguably, "holy-"] days.</p><p></p><p>The Eddas don't mention Odin or Thor or Freya [Freja]? I've never read/researched them. I really can't say/really don't know. But I am curious, then, where the commonly accepted "Norse mythology" was gleaned from. </p><p></p><p>Such a concept, of anthropomorphized beings/forces of life and nature with power or influence over mortal lives, to my understanding of the definitions, make them "deities" versus [neighbor/nature] "spirits"...to my view, more polytheistic than animistic. They could and probably did believe in "nature spirits/a spirit world", as well. But that doesn't meant they didn't have or take as a given truth the existence of "gods."</p><p></p><p>But I suspect we are skirting frightfully close to a discussion of "real world religion" and I don't want to break any forum rules, nor get into a debate on the nuances/philosophies of theism v. animism v. what constitutes a "god" or a "religion", et al. (as interesting as I find such conversation/debate).</p><p></p><p>We can easily agree to disagree on this kind of thing. The fluff of the 5e PHB, seems to me and others anyway, is easily ignored (as most things in 5e are) with a minimum of effort. Your settings are cool and I trust fun for your group. So, sorry 5e fluff is too distracting/disappointing/isn't for you.</p><p></p><p>I wish you happy gaming with your system of choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6642170, member: 92511"] True. They are different views. But the bolded [by me] statement above kind of goes against every book of mythology and ancient religions I've ever seen...and in/as interpreted by D&D. They were not "polytheistic" in a Greco-Roman sense of worshiping in grand temples or overtly constructed religions. But they had deities...even to the point of "living" ones. The gods walked the earth if they so chose. Or "walked/rode" across the skies. They were understood to have influence over the natural world and people's lives or fates, even directly/personally if they so chose. They might "pray to"/seek aid from them [in whatever form that might take]. They certainly made sacrifice at different times of year/for different significant [arguably, "holy-"] days. The Eddas don't mention Odin or Thor or Freya [Freja]? I've never read/researched them. I really can't say/really don't know. But I am curious, then, where the commonly accepted "Norse mythology" was gleaned from. Such a concept, of anthropomorphized beings/forces of life and nature with power or influence over mortal lives, to my understanding of the definitions, make them "deities" versus [neighbor/nature] "spirits"...to my view, more polytheistic than animistic. They could and probably did believe in "nature spirits/a spirit world", as well. But that doesn't meant they didn't have or take as a given truth the existence of "gods." But I suspect we are skirting frightfully close to a discussion of "real world religion" and I don't want to break any forum rules, nor get into a debate on the nuances/philosophies of theism v. animism v. what constitutes a "god" or a "religion", et al. (as interesting as I find such conversation/debate). We can easily agree to disagree on this kind of thing. The fluff of the 5e PHB, seems to me and others anyway, is easily ignored (as most things in 5e are) with a minimum of effort. Your settings are cool and I trust fun for your group. So, sorry 5e fluff is too distracting/disappointing/isn't for you. I wish you happy gaming with your system of choice. [/QUOTE]
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