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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Radaceus" data-source="post: 7685960" data-attributes="member: 6796086">Agreed,It comes down to MMO(4E) and RP(5E), regarding how one takes timing in combat.  Its never the real deal ( well not since OD&D...when we would go outside and throw things at each other to justify speed factors).Speaking of the 31 count Kata. That's not a white belt performing it in 15 secs, nor are they moving 30+' while doing so. The justification of the multiple/Bonus/extra attack in the mechanics was explained once somewhere (1E/Dragon) as 'you swing X amount of times in 6 seconds and of those you have Y chances to land a damaging blow'... this is considering advanced levels of expertise into the system and making a mechanic that represents it..Incidentally, 3 of my players wear belts in shotokan, and our good friends (their Sensai) is a 3rd Dan, it takes many years to get the speed up to perform a kata that efficiently(EDIT: so much typo...mental note: do not post from phone!)</blockquote>