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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8050854" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Not so. If it said &quot;The presence or absence of light in an environment creates one of three categories of illumination: bright light, dim light, and darkness.&quot; I would agree with your, but it doesn't. Just because there are categories of something, does not imply those categories must be mutually exclusive.Correct, but I don't think anyone is suggesting it &quot;turns bright light into dim light&quot;. The bright light is there, but so is the source of the dim light, and it is just adding more &quot;light&quot; to the scene. But the fact remains the source of dim light is shedding &quot;dim light&quot; into that area and the two overlap.Which actually changes the lighting condition. I'm not arguing the cantrip changes the lighting condition. I'm arguing that Shadow Blade requires the target to be in dim light or darkness to gain advantage. Shadow Blade does not exclude &quot;bright light&quot; in that statement. So the target can be in both light conditions (bright and dim) at the same time. Again, the section on light in the environment section does not imply mutually exclusivity.It is horrible rules-lawyering? You bet! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> But it isn't easy to have a source of dim light while concentrating on Shadow Blade. The only method I came up with was a hooded lantern, turned down all the way, shedding dim light in a 5-ft. radius. But, in order for my PC to do that, she suffers (currently) a -4 penalty to her AC (shield +2) when she does. A -4 AC penalty is pretty big just to grant myself advantage when there are other ways she can get it. This &quot;trick&quot; is basically her last go-to option when she needs to get in her sneak attack and has no other way.FWIW, I haven't even needed to use this in months of game play now. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Finally, as [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER] says, some DM's might allow it, others won't. I know there are tons of mechanics issues (Shield Master anyone?) that deviate from RAW, RAI, and house-ruling.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8050854, member: 6987520"] Not so. If it said "[I]The presence or absence of light in an environment creates [B]one of[/B] three categories of illumination: bright light, dim light, and darkness.[/I]" I would agree with your, but it doesn't. Just because there are categories of something, does not imply those categories must be mutually exclusive. Correct, but I don't think anyone is suggesting it "turns bright light into dim light". The bright light is there, but so is the source of the dim light, and it is just adding more "light" to the scene. But the fact remains the source of dim light is shedding "dim light" into that area and the two overlap. Which [I]actually[/I] changes the lighting condition. I'm not arguing the cantrip changes the lighting condition. I'm arguing that Shadow Blade requires the target to be in dim light or darkness to gain advantage. Shadow Blade does not exclude "bright light" in that statement. So the target can be in both light conditions (bright and dim) at the same time. Again, the section on light in the environment section does not imply mutually exclusivity. It is horrible rules-lawyering? You bet! :) But it isn't easy to have a source of dim light while concentrating on Shadow Blade. The only method I came up with was a hooded lantern, turned down all the way, shedding dim light in a 5-ft. radius. But, in order for my PC to do that, she suffers (currently) a -4 penalty to her AC (shield +2) when she does. A -4 AC penalty is pretty big just to grant myself advantage when there are other ways she can get it. This "trick" is basically her last go-to option when she [I]needs[/I] to get in her sneak attack and has no other way. FWIW, I haven't even needed to use this in months of game play now. :) Finally, as [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER] says, some DM's might allow it, others won't. I know there are tons of mechanics issues ([I]Shield Master[/I] anyone?) that deviate from RAW, RAI, and house-ruling. [/QUOTE]

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