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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7632230" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>You’re skipping the step where the DM determines whether the result of the PC’s effort is uncertain and has a meaningful consequence for failure. If it is and does, and the DM calls for a check, I see no reason given here that it would be made with disadvantage, but that would be up to the DM to decide. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, with the above caveat that the DM first determines that the result of the NPC’s effort is uncertain and has a meaningful consequence for failure and calls for a Wisdom (Perception) check to determine the result, if the NPC’s effort relies on sight, then yes, I think the check would likely be made with disadvantage unless the NPC had some source of advantage that would cancel it out. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, the NPC can no longer see the PC. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, now if the DM asks the player for a Wisdom (Perception) check that relies on sight to resolve the PC’s attempt to notice something about the NPC, the check is made with disadvantage unless the PC also has a source of advantage. </p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p></p><p>I think you should make your point more clear. I don’t see what you’re getting at.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 7632230, member: 6787503"] You’re skipping the step where the DM determines whether the result of the PC’s effort is uncertain and has a meaningful consequence for failure. If it is and does, and the DM calls for a check, I see no reason given here that it would be made with disadvantage, but that would be up to the DM to decide. Again, with the above caveat that the DM first determines that the result of the NPC’s effort is uncertain and has a meaningful consequence for failure and calls for a Wisdom (Perception) check to determine the result, if the NPC’s effort relies on sight, then yes, I think the check would likely be made with disadvantage unless the NPC had some source of advantage that would cancel it out. Yes, the NPC can no longer see the PC. Yes, now if the DM asks the player for a Wisdom (Perception) check that relies on sight to resolve the PC’s attempt to notice something about the NPC, the check is made with disadvantage unless the PC also has a source of advantage. [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] I think you should make your point more clear. I don’t see what you’re getting at. [/QUOTE]
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