Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nac_Mac_Feegle" data-source="post: 2791398" data-attributes="member: 32300">Dont be sorry, were all entitled to our opinions.Maybe I should give you some more background, to fully understand the situation.I had stopped gaming for a long while when my daughter was born, and finally went back to my gaming group after about 2 years, when I had left, they were about level 5 or 6. Thye were now about 15-18, its been some years I cant remember, the GM told me to do a character, and I rolled a rogue, and being my first chance to do a PrC I went assassin, I like rogues beause of versatility, your not really stuck in one role.Now the tower of undead was in the midle of some wastelands, very far from anywhere, not exactly easy to go back and just change some gear aournd ot be effective, and once we broke in, the vampire lord was alerted, we didnt have time to hang aound or send out for supplies.Now being 100% ineffective for 3 weeks, and having a character I wasnt that attached to (thats the problem joining a high level group) I felt it was better to bow out and replace the rogue wiht a priest, which the party desperately needed.Now a lot of the tactics you mention I have used myself, mainly on any type of character, I dont like hving a character completely useless, I would rather have someone who can try and use tactics etc, just sometimes you come up against a brick wall where your character just isnt suited.If your a low level warrior, sent on a high seas adventure, changing gear isnt a hardship, at high level it becomes a costly exercise to replace that +3 Mithril plate, and if you dont wear it, the monsters CR isnt going to change, and as a front line troop, its going to hurt.PC's are poeple in the world to, and they will inevitably be chosen for tasks they can do, 1 or 2 sea voyages isnt going to cripple you without armour, it will put a burden on yuor healer, but if its going to all be at sea, then a more dexterous agile fighter is preferable.Its all examples, there are times when the low charisma half orc doesnt feel hes contributing, but when a fight kicks off, hes there laying down the law. No one is 100% effective at all times, it would be dull as dishwater if we were, but thats a million miles away from being 0% effective and people thinking your whining.I dont think im the best gamer in the world, I have min maxed in the past, more so in my youth, but that stage of my life has gone by no, I would rather have a more fleshed out character concept, and try and work my character sheet ot match my vision, and as a person, I prefer to adapt as best I can to any given situation, so that comes out in my characters, I think only 2 or maybe 3 times in its entirety have I been completely 0% effective, but I have seen it happen more ot other poeple, or seen how a DM's decisions can make your character useless, unintentionally, and things have had to be changed.I took the original OP's post as light hearted banter, and I felt I could contribute with some observations of my own, but then people started lambasting the OP and me as power gamers and min maxers, when it was humour. No one slated the "Stupid Things PC's have done" thread by saying "you guys cant RP, no one would be that stupid blah blah blah" it was taken as it was meant, a humourous look at the fact sometimes "<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> happens"Feegle OUt <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

Verification