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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 8253117" data-attributes="member: 2629">It didn't come off as that way.  It came off as you literally thinking you can ALWAYS get 2 - when you can't always for many obvious reasons which multiple people have pointed out, but you disregard.I've handled my meat thoroughly.Frankly, BS.  Yes, the bolt that extended back (even though they used the word rebound) but for the most part it was not horrendously different.  Lining up foes to get hit without hitting allies, has been similar in each edition although some editions have given us more tools to reposition.The first half of my quoted text applied to both.  I noted how it specifically applied to lightning bolt because that is where we disagree.  I fail to see how that was inappropriate.  Your position is quite clear.  The experience of many others greatly differs from yours based upon many people posting in this thread.  That is all that needs to be said, as all you're doing is repeating yourself and dismissing the views of all the people that have disagreed with you without truly addressing the meat, as you say, of their statements.  For example, I provided you a starter list of situations in which 2 targets were either impossible, or unlikely.  Most of them are common, and while a few are a bit more uncommon, I have seen all of the ones I suggested this year - in roughly 3 months, of D&D.  Dismissing them as unrealistic was just ... hollow.</blockquote>

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