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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8253948" data-attributes="member: 93670">I pretty strongly disagree with this.&nbsp; Playing a wizard in 5e always winds up feeling more restrictive than 3.5[spoiler=&quot;side by side&quot;][ATTACH=full]135921[/ATTACH][/spoiler]Putting that in simplified crunched comparison you get <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iY1uvVwnZ-bKoGBXE7GxE3w-SZXxy0jaFkxjHDW1PNA/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">this</a>[spoiler=&quot;screengrab of difference&quot;][ATTACH=full]135922[/ATTACH][/spoiler]You were right that at low levels&nbsp; the difference is in favor of 5e &amp; that things flip at level 8, but from level nine on the 5e wizard is losing flexibility to an alarming degree.&nbsp; Sometime fairly early from 5ish on&nbsp; the marginal cost of preparing one cast of low level niche spell or two was extremely low with low level niche spell being a rolling target that expanded as the caster leveled to gain more &amp; higher spell slotsWe haven't even gotten into the fact that spell scrolls were <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Scribe_Scroll" target="_blank">practically expected thing</a> to make vrs some kind of absurd minigame tacked onto xge133 for everyone but the wizard to enjoy.&nbsp; There is also the fact that A: spells were dramatically more powerful .&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes it was fairly often that the xge costs are lower once the caser level went up if prepared at current caster level for lower level spells, but 3.5 dmg 282 was explicit about the options and 5e scrolls are always cast at lowest level[spoiler=&quot;creating magic Items&quot;][ATTACH=full]135923[/ATTACH][/spoiler]Without a <a href="https://www.dndarchive.com/forums/depth-roleplay-qa/charater-wealth-level" target="_blank">wealth by level chart</a> 5e doesn't even get to have a seat at the table of comparing spell scroll scribing prices</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8253948, member: 93670"] I pretty strongly disagree with this. Playing a wizard in 5e always winds up feeling more restrictive than 3.5 [spoiler="side by side"][ATTACH type="full"]135921[/ATTACH] [/spoiler] Putting that in simplified crunched comparison you get [URL='https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iY1uvVwnZ-bKoGBXE7GxE3w-SZXxy0jaFkxjHDW1PNA/edit?usp=sharing']this[/URL] [spoiler="screengrab of difference"] [ATTACH type="full"]135922[/ATTACH] [/spoiler] You were right that at low levels the difference is in favor of 5e & that things flip at level 8, but from level nine on the 5e wizard is losing flexibility to an alarming degree. Sometime fairly early from 5ish on the marginal cost of preparing one cast of low level niche spell or two was extremely low with low level niche spell being a rolling target that expanded as the caster leveled to gain more & higher spell slots We haven't even gotten into the fact that spell scrolls were [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Scribe_Scroll']practically expected thing[/URL] to make vrs some kind of absurd minigame tacked onto xge133 for everyone but the wizard to enjoy. There is also the fact that A: spells were dramatically more powerful . Yes it was fairly often that the xge costs are lower once the caser level went up if prepared at current caster level for lower level spells, but 3.5 dmg 282 was explicit about the options and 5e scrolls are always cast at lowest level [spoiler="creating magic Items"][ATTACH type="full"]135923[/ATTACH] [/spoiler] [B]Without a [URL='https://www.dndarchive.com/forums/depth-roleplay-qa/charater-wealth-level']wealth by level chart[/URL] 5e doesn't even get to have a seat at the table of comparing spell scroll scribing prices[/B] [/QUOTE]

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