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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 172742" data-attributes="member: 4134">Little conversation about Ted the Mage and your friendly Genie Spell Service:Ted casts limited wishTed: "Hi, Genie, I need to air walk today, as the 4th level cleric spell."Genie: "Ever saw a cleric use that?"T: "No."G: "Ever saw a cleric cast that?"T: "No."G: "How do you know of that one?"T: "Yesterday, I was in that funny tavern in my town. And there was that wandering minstrel that sang and told stories about some really heroic cleric of pelor who even could walk on thin air! I asked if he knew the spell, and he said he did, and it was air walk."G: "So you want to cast a spell which you know only on description and which, let me see...., is from a school you may not cast at all, since you are a specialist mage, and no cleric?"T: "Yes....."G: "Fine! Here you go!"This is no problem at all: Sure, he is no cleric. Sure, he may usually cast no spells from the transmutation school. Sure, he hasn't even seen that bloody spell a single time. But he can cast it via limited wish, since it states any spell of 4th level and lower.The limits of the spell are that he uses a 7th level slot and only gets a 4th level spell (or, if all is ideal, a 6th level spell). No time stop for you, Ted!A week later, Ted cast limited wish again:T: "Hi, see that horde of succubi? Their positions would be just right to use Chain Lightning on them, according to Mordenkainens Book of Spell Tactics, Volume II. But I know that the're immune to lightning. But the tactic would be so nice. But I have an idea: A friend of mine is an elemental savant: he has this nice metamagic of energy substitution, which he can use to turn just everything into a cold spell! He showed me several times how he prepared those fireballs differently, I'm going to learn that metamagic right next week. But then it will be to late. The succubi will be gone!"G: "Get to the point!"T: "Right! You see, I want a Chain Lightning spell, only that I want it with cold instead of lightning, as with the metamagic feat!"G: "No."T: "No?"G: "No!"T: "Why?"G: "We just don't offer metamagic! Read our terms of business!"T: "But it states nowhere that you do or don't offer them! You have to.... hey! Where are you? Come back! Come back you wee.... Hello, ladies...."See? Limited wish says nowhere that you can't use metamagic (it doesn't say cou can, either). But a spell that provides you with just about any spell of 4th level and lower, no matter what it is, or any spell of 6th level and lower that you could as well learn yourself (that's a load of spells!), and thereby offers you lots of possibilities, should also be able to provide you with spells changed with metamagic feats, assuming they use no spell slot that is to high for you, even if you aren't able to change spells with that particular metamagic yourself (after all, you can cast cleric spells, and you aren't even supposed to know how they're cast. You could even cure yourself for 4d8 + 13 or so damage using limited wish!)</blockquote>

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