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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 5983050" data-attributes="member: 37579">I like more than I dislike. But there's a reason I'm playing Pathfinder and asking here and on the Paizo forums...&nbsp;Monopoly is a game. If I wanted something that was just a game I would be playing Wrath if Asardalon twice a month not Pathfinder. I want something more.&nbsp;Fun is also subjective. You know what isn't fun? Dying. Losing a PC. Heck, failure itself is pretty un-fun. We should get rid of that. Critical hits are fun. Every hit should be a critical!Yes, it's hyperbole, but I'm making a point. The touches of realism are what makes D&amp;D and Pathfinder what they are.Yup. Could totally happen. Would suck but would be fun. Last time I played a wizard I was failing a swimming challenge. The DM used our carried weight against us, and my Str 8 wizard was getting his butt kicked. So he jettisoned his spell component pouch for that extra couple pounds (and his pants). I had to do the next five sessions without a pouch, scavenging components and picking spells based on what I could find. Which was fun. Challenging but rewarding. Sometimes not being 100% and handicapped is fun. And when you succeed you feel even more badass.I haven't yet. Not sure anyone is playing a wizard yet. I'm starting them as NPC classes with the basic stat array. Yes, I'm a horrible human being. I wanted to be able to come up to them and say &quot;Here's my idea. I got some feedback on the numbers and it seems balanced and fair.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 5983050, member: 37579"] I like more than I dislike. But there's a reason I'm playing [I]Pathfinder[/I] and asking here and on the Paizo forums... Monopoly is a game. If I wanted something that was [I]just a game[/I] I would be playing [I]Wrath if Asardalon[/I] twice a month not [I]Pathfinder[/I]. I want something more. Fun is also subjective. You know what isn't fun? Dying. Losing a PC. Heck, failure itself is pretty un-fun. We should get rid of that. Critical hits are fun. Every hit should be a critical! Yes, it's hyperbole, but I'm making a point. The touches of realism are what makes D&D and Pathfinder what they are. Yup. Could totally happen. Would suck but would be fun. Last time I played a wizard I was failing a swimming challenge. The DM used our carried weight against us, and my Str 8 wizard was getting his butt kicked. So he jettisoned his spell component pouch for that extra couple pounds (and his pants). I had to do the next five sessions without a pouch, scavenging components and picking spells based on what I could find. Which was fun. Challenging but rewarding. Sometimes not being 100% and handicapped is fun. And when you succeed you feel even more badass. I haven't yet. Not sure anyone is playing a wizard yet. I'm starting them as NPC classes with the basic stat array. Yes, I'm a horrible human being. I wanted to be able to come up to them and say "Here's my idea. I got some feedback on the numbers and it seems balanced and fair." [/QUOTE]

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