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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hipnotode" data-source="post: 5485938" data-attributes="member: 6671917">i like this idea of giving more importance to basics, and bring them back to the norm, instead of just something isused only when granted a free action. there are a few things that i think need to be implemented to make this posible however; i think that you would need to give a free melee training feat to all melee classes & invent a range alternative for ranged classes, include a basic attack for shaman's spirit companion/druids beast form etc. and allow use of a  basic magic attack power for magic users. this does not have to be a magic missile type auto-hit, or an elderich blast or something, maybe just a re-fluffed ranged basic with something like 1/2 level+skill mod+weapon enhancement attack bonus vs will or fort, with like 1d8+skill mod damage? And then to get players to actually use them, i think players would respond to there basics pimped rather than there powers being gimped. maybe a system where you alow them to aim basics (and not powers, because they are already fluffed) at curtain parts of the enemy, and apply an attack modifier and then an extra effect to the attack. a couple of examples: 1) joe the elf ranger wanted to go for a headshot, you could give him a -2 attack (because of the difficultly of hitting a small target like the head, compared to trying to just hit) and giving him a damage increase, maybe another damage dice.2) dave the fighter is fighting a particularly annoying goblin thief who keeps running around the room, and manages to catch up to him long enough to make an attack, and so he decided to go for the thief legs, at a -1 attack for and additional effect of slowed (save ends).im sure that you and your players will thing of more.i haven't really used this system in play (except for a few instances where my party wanted to attack something in particular (an magical amulet a necromancer had i think) so the DM decided to make us use basics to do so. i think this is the way to go if your thinking about trying to make basics as players are less likely to complain if you give them something, or improve something they have rather than weakening/limiting/removing things that they have already got directly.</blockquote>

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