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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9130112" data-attributes="member: 93670">explaining why the LR classes don't want to wait is the part you are avoiding.  Are you avoiding it because those why's tend to involve a scenario where ignoring the LR class players attempting to head consequences paints the warlock/SR class player being overruled in a poor light?Any possible consequence is generally "part of the RP".  That Why behind the rest of the group not wanting to is SR critical.  Keep going & name some that unmask the villain in your scenario.   Why you are avoiding the discussion that would stem from those apparently inconvenient details in order to simply blame LR classes?If the warlock/SR player wants to ignore & dismiss those possible consequences asa thing dismissable under being merely "part of the RP".   Doing that might make it easy for the warlock/SR class player to keep avoiding fault by painting LR class players as villains standing in the way of an entitled SR.  Ifwhen that is done however  the rest of the group is unfairly forced to check the warlock/SR class player's efforts to SR in order to avoid those consequences,  it's the warlock/SR class player who is being unreasonable in not checking themselves "as part of the RP".  If there is not any consequences the LR class players are trying to avoid "the warlock/SR class player is playing with jerks" or is quite likely deserving of a YTA label in refusing to even acknowledge the consequence.Since you seem unwilling to mention the why[spoiler="Here are a few examples to get you started"]<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">We have buffs running, we are going to carry them forward into the next fight<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[ispoiler]the Warlock/SR player should be more cognizant of the group they are treating as sidekicks & pace themselves or accept that everyone else at the table also deserve to enjoy their shiny toys.  Lets be honest, the warlock/SR class player could have them running to but probably cares less when they can recover the slot used to cast it & more in the rest.[/ispoiler]</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There is a doom clock running, we don't want the [bad thing]* to complete because we were waiting for you to take a rest.  The Warlock/SR player literally has powerful at will abilities they can use for this exact kind of situation<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[ispoiler]A doom clock doesn't exist if players aren't aware of it ahead of time.  The Warlock/SR player should have internalized the doom clock and made an effort to pace their expenditures better by doing things like perhaps conserving their SR resources & relying on the powerful at will abilities they have till they reach a major fight or burn through their pool at a more judicious rate.[/ispoiler]</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The warlock/SR PC player is trying to take an excessive number of rests that ultimately feels abusive to their sidekickized allies[/ispoiler]<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[ispoiler]The warlock/SR class player aren't playing  the main character & should be more cognizant of the embarrassment of riches they are demanding[/ispoiler]</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The badguys are getting away and the LR class players don't want to let that happen just so the warlock/SR class player can take a rest.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[ispoiler]The warlock/SR class player must have been there to notice the bad guys getting away & is being unreasonable expecting the gm to either make the getting away wait for a rest or is being unreasonable expecting the group to allow them to get away just to avoid limiting themselves to their still powerful at-will abilities.[/ispoiler]</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There is no reason the LR players just don't want their characters to wait<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[ispoiler]LR players at said table: "dude, we explained it to you, we don't want to take this rest because we are trying to avoid this specific consequence that you are ignoring"[/ispoiler]</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The rest of the group are simply jerks<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">[ispoiler]That's so weird to find a full group of jerks... Don't play with jerks[/ispoiler]</li> </ul></li> </ul>* princess dies, the ritual completes, the portal opens, the assassination target does their thing & is out of the party's reach or the assassins the party wants to stop kill the target, so on & so forth.[/spoiler]There are probably other reasons why as well, but they seem to be something that you are unwilling to admit.</blockquote>

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