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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9130715" data-attributes="member: 93670">No not at all.  I've pointed out the difference between implying the warlock/SR class player has been wronged by the LR class players with "the other/long rest classes don't want to wait" vrs accepting that the warlock/SR class player is not entitled a SR & is simply not able to take a SR because doing so would cause the group and/or other players to suffer some consequence.  In the case of accepting that the consequence should be avoided.If a LR class player like wizard sorcerer or cleric were to behave in the same way & burn all of their top end spell slots as fast as possible then quickly demand a LR while simply complaining that the only problem is "the rest of the group doesn't want to wait" that player would rightfully be told to be more judicious in their slot use & to do things like use more cantrips while being reminded of how the 5mwd is simply not fun or reasonable to expect.   Unlike that hypothetical LR class player the warlock & other SR classes get powerful at will abilities intended to  support them when they too need to be more judicious in their slot use or simply can't expect to eat the consequence of taking a SR.Just like the wizard/sorcerer/cleric who is unreasonable expecting to nova all of their spell slots as quickly as possible before taking a rest is being unreasonable in how they are playing, the warlock & other SR class players doing the same are being just as unreasonable.  Given those powerful at-will abilities & the reason they are provided to warlock & other SR classes, when the warlock/SR class player refuses to even acknowledge that it's the consequence rather than being wronged by the whims of other players preventing that short rest they are very clearly being abusive to both their fellow GM and more specifically their fellow players by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z1yrVQZRTw&t=426s" target="_blank">by viewing them as the enemy</a>.Five minute short rests are not reasonable because short rest classes accumulate too much power both in their SR recovery abilities as well as their at-will abilities.  Granting them five minute SRs would be an absolute endorsement of the 5mwd and make the very reason they are given powerful at-will abilities a farce.You can see some of them mentionedonce more above and in the indented [ispoiler]ispoilered[/ispoiler] bits of the examples in that post you partially quoted.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z1yrVQZRTw&t=426s" target="_blank">Treating the other players as enemies</a> who are preventing the warlock from taking a SR simply because they don't want to wait instead of acknowledging that there is a consequence preventing the SR is an incredibly toxic way of approaching a collaborative game like d&d.</blockquote>

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