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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 1160576" data-attributes="member: 158">Very few DM's in my experience throw all the books wide open, let anything in that has ever been written, and sort out the pieces when the game begins. Most DM's have at least ONE or two limits to what is acceptable. And no DM should be expected to, because not all material written is best for a particular DM's style or his game.But how limited is too limited? At what point can a player feel too stifled to even create something he would find fun to play?I think the best answer is: The point at which the player can create a character and still find it fun for the long term, is the point at which limits are good.I'm not talking about players acting "spoiled" because they can't use the classes out of Munchkin d20. I'm talking about the player who cannot enjoy a DM's game because his concern for the game mechanics outweighs the fun of the game.ANY limits are workable, as long as the players can work with them. Conversely, anyone who throws open every book and source is asking for, and getting, a jumbled mess that is very difficult to adjudicate.</blockquote>