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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7483643" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>I was speaking more to the resulting difference in the fictional situation. A frightened creature with the source of its fear within line of sight has disadvantage on ability checks and attack rolls. By your reading of line of sight, it can avoid having disadvantage on all ability checks by accepting automatic failure on ability checks that require sight and granting advantage on attack rolls against it, simply by closing its eyes. That isn't the case if following the rules for using miniatures, at least by my reading, and the resulting difference doesn't sit well with me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What if the receiver is turned off? Would you then say line of sight is blocked because no signal is being received? To me, that is analogous to closing one's eyes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll agree to disagree with you on this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My reading isn't unique. [MENTION=7706]SkidAce[/MENTION] appears to agree with me when he says, 'I believe "line of sight" is a measurement type thing. You can use your vision to determine if anything is blocking the line between A and B.</p><p></p><p>'But closing your eyes just means that you put the ruler away. Person at A can still see you and shoot you with, say an arrow.' His statement doesn't address line of sight as belonging to one observer or another. Line of sight is a quality that exists (or doesn't) between two locations. Opening your eyes and looking along the line allows you to make use of the line of sight, but it doesn't create it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 7483643, member: 6787503"] I was speaking more to the resulting difference in the fictional situation. A frightened creature with the source of its fear within line of sight has disadvantage on ability checks and attack rolls. By your reading of line of sight, it can avoid having disadvantage on all ability checks by accepting automatic failure on ability checks that require sight and granting advantage on attack rolls against it, simply by closing its eyes. That isn't the case if following the rules for using miniatures, at least by my reading, and the resulting difference doesn't sit well with me. What if the receiver is turned off? Would you then say line of sight is blocked because no signal is being received? To me, that is analogous to closing one's eyes. I'll agree to disagree with you on this. My reading isn't unique. [MENTION=7706]SkidAce[/MENTION] appears to agree with me when he says, 'I believe "line of sight" is a measurement type thing. You can use your vision to determine if anything is blocking the line between A and B. 'But closing your eyes just means that you put the ruler away. Person at A can still see you and shoot you with, say an arrow.' His statement doesn't address line of sight as belonging to one observer or another. Line of sight is a quality that exists (or doesn't) between two locations. Opening your eyes and looking along the line allows you to make use of the line of sight, but it doesn't create it. [/QUOTE]
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