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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9659448" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>I'd draw a difference here.</p><p></p><p><strong>Fear:</strong> If the creature ends its turn in a space where it (the target) doesn’t <strong>have</strong> line of sight to you, the creature makes a Wisdom saving throw.</p><p></p><p><strong>Frightened:</strong> A frightened creature has disadvantage on ability checks and attack rolls while the source of its fear is within line of sight.</p><p> </p><p>For the Fear spell and Frightened Condition there is a slight difference in the language. For the Fear spell we are looking at the space and asking whether the creature does or doesn't have line of sight to the caster from within that space. To me, the inclusion of the space in the description means we check to see if the target could have line of sight from the space - Essentially, we check to see if, within the space, line of sight is possible.</p><p></p><p>For the Frightened condition, we ask whether the target has the source within line of sight. It is a direct check to see if the target is seeing the target.</p><p></p><p>Have line of sight versus having the source within line of sight. Subtle. </p><p></p><p>To that end, if the target ended their movement in a space with no obstruction between the caster and the target and plenty of light and no blindness, the target could close their eyes. They do not get the save because they are in a space where the target has the ability to have line of sight ... but they are not at disadvantage on ability checks not relying upon sight.</p><p></p><p>YMMV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 9659448, member: 2629"] I'd draw a difference here. [B]Fear:[/B] If the creature ends its turn in a space where it (the target) doesn’t [B]have[/B] line of sight to you, the creature makes a Wisdom saving throw. [B]Frightened:[/B] A frightened creature has disadvantage on ability checks and attack rolls while the source of its fear is within line of sight. For the Fear spell and Frightened Condition there is a slight difference in the language. For the Fear spell we are looking at the space and asking whether the creature does or doesn't have line of sight to the caster from within that space. To me, the inclusion of the space in the description means we check to see if the target could have line of sight from the space - Essentially, we check to see if, within the space, line of sight is possible. For the Frightened condition, we ask whether the target has the source within line of sight. It is a direct check to see if the target is seeing the target. Have line of sight versus having the source within line of sight. Subtle. To that end, if the target ended their movement in a space with no obstruction between the caster and the target and plenty of light and no blindness, the target could close their eyes. They do not get the save because they are in a space where the target has the ability to have line of sight ... but they are not at disadvantage on ability checks not relying upon sight. YMMV. [/QUOTE]
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