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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 9659673" data-attributes="member: 3586"><p>More fun...</p><p></p><p>The general interpretation (that several people have said to me) is that the line of sight requirement for hiding <em>does not apply</em> when you have 3/4 cover. It's a perfectly reasonable interpretation of how the rule is supposed to work - while not being what the rule says.</p><p></p><p>And it's worth noting that this Sage Advice doubles down on the "you can't hide if someone has line of sight to you" ruling, as part of the Blindsight/True Seeing ruling.</p><p></p><p>So...</p><p>You can hide if you have 3/4 cover and someone has line of sight to you.</p><p></p><p>Does this mean...</p><p>You can hide if you have total cover behind a <em>completely transparent</em> Wall of Force and someone has line of sight to you?</p><p></p><p>Surely not! But by the 3/4 cover ruling, it would follow for the full cover ruling... if we were looking for consistency in how the rule is written.</p><p></p><p>All of which points to the utter failure of the rule as written.</p><p></p><p>How to fix it?</p><p></p><p>Well, I'd start with the following:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You may only hide if no enemy has a clear line of sight to you.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">An enemy has a clear line of sight to you if you are not behind 3/4 (opaque) cover or better, or otherwise impossible to see by that enemy (e.g. invisible or in total darkness, and the enemy has no special means of detecting you in those states).</li> </ul><p></p><p>We can probably improve the wording, but it's much better than the backwards way 2024 does it...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 9659673, member: 3586"] More fun... The general interpretation (that several people have said to me) is that the line of sight requirement for hiding [I]does not apply[/I] when you have 3/4 cover. It's a perfectly reasonable interpretation of how the rule is supposed to work - while not being what the rule says. And it's worth noting that this Sage Advice doubles down on the "you can't hide if someone has line of sight to you" ruling, as part of the Blindsight/True Seeing ruling. So... You can hide if you have 3/4 cover and someone has line of sight to you. Does this mean... You can hide if you have total cover behind a [I]completely transparent[/I] Wall of Force and someone has line of sight to you? Surely not! But by the 3/4 cover ruling, it would follow for the full cover ruling... if we were looking for consistency in how the rule is written. All of which points to the utter failure of the rule as written. How to fix it? Well, I'd start with the following: [LIST] [*]You may only hide if no enemy has a clear line of sight to you. [*]An enemy has a clear line of sight to you if you are not behind 3/4 (opaque) cover or better, or otherwise impossible to see by that enemy (e.g. invisible or in total darkness, and the enemy has no special means of detecting you in those states). [/LIST] We can probably improve the wording, but it's much better than the backwards way 2024 does it... [/QUOTE]
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