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Message: <blockquote data-quote="phindar" data-source="post: 3397161" data-attributes="member: 37198">I'm suggesting that linking beauty to CHA is like saying someone won the Superbowl because of the color of their jersey.Here's the way I am looking at it. We'll call it 3 Possibilities:#1.  CHA and Beauty are not linked.  CHA is the force of your personality, your personal magnetism, and your ability to lead.  Physical attractiveness is a superficial, a "fluff" consideration, and can't be tied directly back to stats. #2.  CHA and Beauty are linked.  As the sole stat that mentions physical attractiveness in the book, CHA determines physical attractiveness.  Low CHA characters are ugly, High CHA characters are beautiful.  #3. CHA and Beauty are related, but they are also separate.  This one I'm a little fuzzy on, because it seems paradoxical, but enough people have voted for it that I feel compelled to put it on the list.  High CHA ugly people and Low CHA beautiful people are possible, that the various parts of CHA blend together to the final score, and a deficiency in one area can be made up by being exceptional in another area.  #1 is the opinion I have been pushing so far.  #2 is the idea put forth by the RAW, but its also the easiest to discount, because so many of the conclusions you draw from it are ridiculous.  (That all charismatic people are prettier, that you have to be pretty to be charismatic, that physical beauty determines Turn Attempts per day, and so on.)  #3 seems to be the idea you have put forth, but I have the same problem with #3 that I have with #2 (that physical attractiveness affects a Sorcerer's ability to cast, or that a Sorcerer's ability to cast affects his attractiveness) as I see physical attractiveness as a cosmetic consideration, and a particularly useless one in a game with 100's of creatures with radically different standards of beauty, plus the fact that #3 is contradictory.  If CHA and Beauty are linked sometimes and completely separate sometimes, what's the point in saying they are linked?  (If one character is beautiful because of his High CHA, and another has a Low Charisma and is beautiful, and a third has a High CHA and is ugly, wouldn't the logical conclusion be that CHA is not linked the beauty?)My problem with this is that the beautiful woman with the okay personality and the ugly woman with the amazing personality both get the same number of bonus spells per day as a Sorcerer.  One gets her spells from having a forceful personality, the other, from being hot.  This is a bridge too far for my suspension of disbelief.</blockquote>

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