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<blockquote data-quote="phindar" data-source="post: 3398975" data-attributes="member: 37198">Hey, I never said I wasn't shallow.&nbsp; I just think how they look should be irrelevant to their casting stat.&nbsp; Here's how I have it breaking down right now:Beauty relates to CHA:a) Neverb) Alwaysc) SometimesLet's concentrate for a moment on the Sometimes.&nbsp; In what situation would you as a GM let a character's CHA score dictate their physical appearance?&nbsp; Do you think there is a point where a player's description of their character gets too beautiful without a stat backing it up?&nbsp; How would this differ from a player saying their character was highly physically attractive because they have the body of an Adonis, backed up by an 18 STR and a 16 CON?&nbsp;&nbsp; Let's take the Invisible Stalker as an example.&nbsp; They have a CHA of 11.&nbsp; If through a unique magical effect an Invisible Stalker and a person were to switch consciousnesses (similar to a Magic Jar spell), would it make sense to alter either the person or the stalker's CHA?&nbsp; Would it matter if the person were Victoria Secret Lingerie Model Adriana Lima?&nbsp; (I was going to link to a picture of Adriana Lima, but I couldn't find one that would pass the grandmother test.)What if one of your players used a picture of Adriana Lima as a picture of their half-elf barbarian, but she had an 8 CHA?&nbsp; Would you object?&nbsp; What if the character had an 18 STR?&nbsp; (What if it was a half orc, and the player had doodled tusks on the picture?)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="phindar, post: 3398975, member: 37198"] Hey, I never said I wasn't shallow. I just think how they look should be irrelevant to their casting stat. Here's how I have it breaking down right now: [b]Beauty relates to CHA:[/b] a) Never b) Always c) Sometimes Let's concentrate for a moment on the Sometimes. In what situation would you as a GM let a character's CHA score dictate their physical appearance? Do you think there is a point where a player's description of their character gets too beautiful without a stat backing it up? How would this differ from a player saying their character was highly physically attractive because they have the body of an Adonis, backed up by an 18 STR and a 16 CON? Let's take the Invisible Stalker as an example. They have a CHA of 11. If through a unique magical effect an Invisible Stalker and a person were to switch consciousnesses (similar to a Magic Jar spell), would it make sense to alter either the person or the stalker's CHA? Would it matter if the person were Victoria Secret Lingerie Model Adriana Lima? (I was going to link to a picture of Adriana Lima, but I couldn't find one that would pass the grandmother test.) What if one of your players used a picture of Adriana Lima as a picture of their half-elf barbarian, but she had an 8 CHA? Would you object? What if the character had an 18 STR? (What if it was a half orc, and the player had doodled tusks on the picture?) [/QUOTE]

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