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<blockquote data-quote="Aaron L" data-source="post: 3399044" data-attributes="member: 926">What I have been trying to say is that Charisma DOES cause beauty.&nbsp; Whether it is beauty of the soul, beauty of the face, or beauty of the mind, or raw magical might and strength of presence is up to the player of the character.&nbsp; You can have beauty of the face without high Charisma, but it's a superficial, shallow beauty that is only skin deep (as the saying goes), and you won't have beauty of the soul or mind.&nbsp; A high Charisma means that you would have beauty in all the areas that the stat covers, or average qualities in one of the those sreas and very high levels in the others, in varying combinations.Just like a character with high Dexterity could be so clumsy he trips over his own feet, but have hand/eye coordination of almost metahuman levels.&nbsp; But Charisma does cause beauty.&nbsp; Not necessarily physical attractiveness, but some kind of beauty.&nbsp; And it all stems from the innate divinity and mystical power that Charisma represents, shining through to be seen by the outside world.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And as I asked&nbsp; before; ALL of the stats represent multiple related components wrapped up together into convenient packages, and always have.&nbsp; Charisma has always had an element of beauty included under it's jurisdiction (an I'm glad they fully embraced and expanded upon it's more classical mystical/divine element in 3E as well)&nbsp; So why take special offense at ONE of the stats being this way?&nbsp; Why not get equally worked up about Dexterity being a combination of gross motor control and hand/eye coordination combined with kinesthetic awareness and balance?&nbsp; Or Wisdom being a combination of willpower, enlightenment, mental fortitude, and perception?If it's just because you think it's dictating to you how your character has to actually LOOK, then you have to realize it ISN'T.&nbsp; It's saying that your character has to be beautiful in some way, but that doesn't necessarily have to mean physically beautiful.And ALL the stats dictate to you how your character is.&nbsp; &nbsp; Really, actually just about all of the stats are, to a certain extent, dictating how your character should look (at least the physical ones.)&nbsp; Your character with an 18 Strength really shouldn't be a scrawny beanpole, after all.&nbsp; Unless you have some really good reason for it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aaron L, post: 3399044, member: 926"] What I have been trying to say is that Charisma DOES cause beauty. Whether it is beauty of the soul, beauty of the face, or beauty of the mind, or raw magical might and strength of presence is up to the player of the character. You can have beauty of the face without high Charisma, but it's a superficial, shallow beauty that is only skin deep (as the saying goes), and you won't have beauty of the soul or mind. A high Charisma means that you would have beauty in all the areas that the stat covers, or average qualities in one of the those sreas and very high levels in the others, in varying combinations. Just like a character with high Dexterity could be so clumsy he trips over his own feet, but have hand/eye coordination of almost metahuman levels. But Charisma [i]does[/i] cause beauty. Not necessarily physical attractiveness, but some kind of beauty. And it all stems from the innate divinity and mystical power that Charisma represents, shining through to be seen by the outside world. And as I asked before; ALL of the stats represent multiple related components wrapped up together into convenient packages, and always have. Charisma has always had an element of beauty included under it's jurisdiction (an I'm glad they fully embraced and expanded upon it's more classical mystical/divine element in 3E as well) So why take special offense at ONE of the stats being this way? Why not get equally worked up about Dexterity being a combination of gross motor control and hand/eye coordination combined with kinesthetic awareness and balance? Or Wisdom being a combination of willpower, enlightenment, mental fortitude, and perception? If it's just because you think it's dictating to you how your character has to actually LOOK, then you have to realize it ISN'T. It's saying that your character has to be beautiful [i]in some way[/i], but that doesn't necessarily have to mean physically beautiful. And ALL the stats dictate to you how your character is. Really, actually just about all of the stats are, to a certain extent, dictating how your character should look (at least the physical ones.) Your character with an 18 Strength really shouldn't be a scrawny beanpole, after all. Unless you have some really good reason for it. [/QUOTE]

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