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<blockquote data-quote="phindar" data-source="post: 3401426" data-attributes="member: 37198">I agree wholeheartedly.&nbsp; This is 95% of my argument as to why physical attractiveness shouldn't link to CHA.&nbsp; Because-- animation aside-- Comic Book Guy and Chris Farley are roughly the same level of physical attractiveness.&nbsp; And yet one of them was a very talented comedian and movie star, and the other is stalking Linda Carter.&nbsp; If CHA is the sole determining factor of physical attractiveness in the system (as no other stat mentions it, and it is not mentioned anywhere else), then the logical assumption is High CHA characters are beautiful, and Low CHA characters are ugly.&nbsp; While that's what the rules imply, after 100+ posts, no one seems to think that makes any sense.&nbsp; The general consensus is that High CHA characters can be funny-looking (Steve Buschemi) and Low CHA characters can be pretty (Paris Hilton).&nbsp; So the one thing I can draw from that is no one thinks CHA is the sole determing factor of physical attractiveness. I answered this question twice, but hey, maybe the third time is the charm. My objection is not that physical attractiveness is unrelated to other elements of CHA, but that physical attractiveness is unrelated to CHA itself.&nbsp; CHA is a casting stat, it determines your Turn Attempts per day.&nbsp; I don't think a person's relative hotness has any effect on their ability to Turn Undead.My questions to you Felix are these:1) Does a character with a High CHA have to be attractive.2) Does a character with a Low CHA have to be ugly.If the answer is no, if the player can simply say, &quot;My character is good-looking&quot; without any qualifier at all, in what way does being good-looking rely on CHA?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="phindar, post: 3401426, member: 37198"] I agree wholeheartedly. This is 95% of my argument as to why physical attractiveness [i]shouldn't[/i] link to CHA. Because-- animation aside-- Comic Book Guy and Chris Farley are roughly the same level of physical attractiveness. And yet one of them was a very talented comedian and movie star, and the other is stalking Linda Carter. If CHA is the sole determining factor of physical attractiveness in the system (as no other stat mentions it, and it is not mentioned anywhere else), then the logical assumption is High CHA characters are beautiful, and Low CHA characters are ugly. While that's what the rules imply, after 100+ posts, no one seems to think that makes any sense. The general consensus is that High CHA characters can be funny-looking (Steve Buschemi) and Low CHA characters can be pretty (Paris Hilton). So the one thing I can draw from that is [i]no one[/i] thinks CHA is the sole determing factor of physical attractiveness. I answered this question twice, but hey, maybe the third time is the charm. My objection is not that physical attractiveness is unrelated to other elements of CHA, [i]but that physical attractiveness is unrelated to [b]CHA itself[/b].[/i] CHA is a casting stat, it determines your Turn Attempts per day. I don't think a person's relative hotness has any effect on their ability to Turn Undead. My questions to you Felix are these: 1) Does a character with a High CHA [i]have[/i] to be attractive. 2) Does a character with a Low CHA [i]have[/i] to be ugly. If the answer is no, if the player can simply say, "My character is good-looking" without any qualifier at all, in what way does being good-looking rely on CHA? [/QUOTE]

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