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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ValhallaGH" data-source="post: 3222899" data-attributes="member: 41187">After a certain level, it absolutely does.Without magical items you have:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Non-scaling AC</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">One to four decent skill checks (possibly skills that aren't useful)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Either mediocre damage or high damage with little chance of hitting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Few tactical options</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fewer (or even no) area attacks</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Natural hp (which tends to be lower than you'd think)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Limited healing</li> </ul>D&D is balanced with the assumption of a certain access to equipment.  Removing that access for the PCs makes life a whole lot more dangerous.  Removing all that magical equipment and decent mundane equipment options is all but a death sentence.Take a look at a typical Combat Rogue level 20 build.  Strip away all the magical items.  How effective is the character that's left?Most of them fall down to a CR 12 or 14, based upon low AC, low HP and medium attack.  Their advantages are saves, evasion, and high damage on the rare chances they get to sneak attack (remember, no rings of blinking, no allies assumed).To the OP: Your party are now slaves of legend, and it doesn't matter that half of them died.  Five guys were thrown, almost naked, against a pride of 12 lions and none of them went out like chumps.  Heck, three of them lived!That's a feat worthy of poems and songs.</blockquote>

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