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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DreamChaser" data-source="post: 1758897" data-attributes="member: 1190">thanks liquid.  that did help.  now, knowing the underlying rationale behind the build and the domains especially, I see that I have a discrepancy with the concept of domains as you are using them for the class.  My issues with it cannot be resolved within the class you built.I'm sorry if I caused you any frustration.  And for explanation, the comment about the making a couple of characters referred to me, not you.  I cannot verify the power of your sorcerer by making a couple of characters to prepare.  It would take far more investment than that.I think I'll wander away from the thread now.  Good luck with your class.  Sorry for any frustration I caused.DCps.  one last thing I do want to point out.  I have observed that a limitation of choice, no matter how minor, can create frustration and create a negative feeling about something.  I noticed it when 3.0 first came out.  people raged about the "weak" sorcerer.  some still do.  it is distictly possible that folding domains into existing spells known (but not increasing the # of spells known) does not actually decrease power but simply frustrates players a bit initially and makes them perceive the class as weaker, when, in actualily, it is not.</blockquote>