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<blockquote data-quote="jaelis" data-source="post: 6999170" data-attributes="member: 60210"><p>Thanks for the feedback! </p><p></p><p>Regarding Rope Trick, my concern was whether and how the extradimensional space was accessible by planar travel, like plane shift or astral projection. Were you getting at a different issue?</p><p></p><p>For Word of Recall, isn't it just as valid logically to say that if you don't have a deity, then you need to use a sanctuary space that is not dedicated to any deity? That's what you get if you replace "your deity" with "no deity at all." But I'd rather not rely on rules lawery methods in any case; it seems clear that the developers just didn't consider the case that you wouldn't have a deity here.</p><p></p><p>For Time Stop, I would certainly play myself as you suggest. But it isn't quite like other spells, since normally you make a roll just when the result is needed. Like if you cast magic missile, your make the roll as the damage occurs so it makes sense that you know what it is. I can't think of another example where you would make a roll relevant to something in the future but learn the result now. For instance, you wouldn't roll the damage for delayed blast fireball at the time the spell is cast. I don't think Time Stop is the same, but maybe it illustrates the issue. At any rate I've seen people argue about this, for instance <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?249275-Does-caster-know-the-duration-of-her-Time-Stop" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?249275-Does-caster-know-the-duration-of-her-Time-Stop</a>. Apparently in 3E there was an explicit rule that variable durations were not rolled openly.</p><p></p><p>For Wall of Force, certainly cover blocks spells. But it's ambiguous whether WoF is intended to serve as cover for spells, since spells aren't obviously (or not always obviously) physical. Jeremy Crawford says it does provide cover, but Mike Mearls said it doesn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jaelis, post: 6999170, member: 60210"] Thanks for the feedback! Regarding Rope Trick, my concern was whether and how the extradimensional space was accessible by planar travel, like plane shift or astral projection. Were you getting at a different issue? For Word of Recall, isn't it just as valid logically to say that if you don't have a deity, then you need to use a sanctuary space that is not dedicated to any deity? That's what you get if you replace "your deity" with "no deity at all." But I'd rather not rely on rules lawery methods in any case; it seems clear that the developers just didn't consider the case that you wouldn't have a deity here. For Time Stop, I would certainly play myself as you suggest. But it isn't quite like other spells, since normally you make a roll just when the result is needed. Like if you cast magic missile, your make the roll as the damage occurs so it makes sense that you know what it is. I can't think of another example where you would make a roll relevant to something in the future but learn the result now. For instance, you wouldn't roll the damage for delayed blast fireball at the time the spell is cast. I don't think Time Stop is the same, but maybe it illustrates the issue. At any rate I've seen people argue about this, for instance [url]http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?249275-Does-caster-know-the-duration-of-her-Time-Stop[/url]. Apparently in 3E there was an explicit rule that variable durations were not rolled openly. For Wall of Force, certainly cover blocks spells. But it's ambiguous whether WoF is intended to serve as cover for spells, since spells aren't obviously (or not always obviously) physical. Jeremy Crawford says it does provide cover, but Mike Mearls said it doesn't. [/QUOTE]
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