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<blockquote data-quote="gyor" data-source="post: 7418916" data-attributes="member: 6670153">I noticed that some non traditional races of demons and devils are in,&nbsp; like the Dybbuks. &nbsp;Looking at what falls into what sections I'm fairly certain that Elder Tempest,&nbsp; Phoenix,&nbsp; Leviathan,&nbsp; Zaratan are the Elder Elementals. &nbsp;Molydeus are CR 21 Demons who used to be Angels,&nbsp; is it by accident that they are CR 21 like Solars?&nbsp; The Solar now have none Archfiend equals. &nbsp;I believe The Lonely,&nbsp; The Angry,&nbsp; The Hungry,&nbsp; The Lost are all Sorrowsworn,&nbsp; but 4e had no Sorrowsworn like these. In 4e Sorrowsorn we're ascended Shadar Kai and in 5e Shadar Kai are elves descended from the fey/celestials,&nbsp; so could the Sorrowsworn be Shadar Kai Fey?&nbsp; Do Sorrowsorn still count as elves. &nbsp;I noticed that Eldarin are all CR 10 and called Winter/Autumn/Summer/Spring Eldarin,&nbsp; but the more traditional celestial Eldarin aren't mentioned. Given that all the seasonal eldarin are CR 10, I think they might make the celestial versions a templates for regular Eldarin. Maybe recycle the name Celdarin which we're half elf and half celestial Eldarin in 3e,&nbsp; just make them full Celestial Elves now</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gyor, post: 7418916, member: 6670153"] I noticed that some non traditional races of demons and devils are in, like the Dybbuks. Looking at what falls into what sections I'm fairly certain that Elder Tempest, Phoenix, Leviathan, Zaratan are the Elder Elementals. Molydeus are CR 21 Demons who used to be Angels, is it by accident that they are CR 21 like Solars? The Solar now have none Archfiend equals. I believe The Lonely, The Angry, The Hungry, The Lost are all Sorrowsworn, but 4e had no Sorrowsworn like these. In 4e Sorrowsorn we're ascended Shadar Kai and in 5e Shadar Kai are elves descended from the fey/celestials, so could the Sorrowsworn be Shadar Kai Fey? Do Sorrowsorn still count as elves. I noticed that Eldarin are all CR 10 and called Winter/Autumn/Summer/Spring Eldarin, but the more traditional celestial Eldarin aren't mentioned. Given that all the seasonal eldarin are CR 10, I think they might make the celestial versions a templates for regular Eldarin. Maybe recycle the name Celdarin which we're half elf and half celestial Eldarin in 3e, just make them full Celestial Elves now [/QUOTE]

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