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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7185870" data-attributes="member: 82504">Well the value of healing surges is nebulous starting a day down 1 is probably not so wonderful even if you get to start the day earlier. &nbsp;I was considering a level 12 effect but we know now that we have a ritual which is virtually identical at level 16... (this corresponds with your thinking that taking much less time should have a cost) and also corresponds fairly closely with my 5 levels thought.I am thinking I need to make sure that a transcendental meditation of 1 hour is possible while still costing at level 16. Trance has a cost per person though so in that regards it's rather expensive as martial practices goes but you can be awake and guarding allies so it still has benefits if you are the only one with trance. Inspired Recuperation (the new idea) if it doesn't restore all the subjects healing surges is also costed like trance, but is more party friendly.I think&nbsp; including lower level effects that lead up to the level 16&nbsp; full rest effect like you mentioned is a very useful idea.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 7185870, member: 82504"] Well the value of healing surges is nebulous starting a day down 1 is probably not so wonderful even if you get to start the day earlier. I was considering a level 12 effect but we know now that we have a ritual which is virtually identical at level 16... (this corresponds with your thinking that taking much less time should have a cost) and also corresponds fairly closely with my 5 levels thought. I am thinking I need to make sure that a transcendental meditation of 1 hour is possible while still costing at level 16. Trance has a cost per person though so in that regards it's rather expensive as martial practices goes but you can be awake and guarding allies so it still has benefits if you are the only one with trance. Inspired Recuperation (the new idea) if it doesn't restore all the subjects healing surges is also costed like trance, but is more party friendly. I think including lower level effects that lead up to the level 16 full rest effect like you mentioned is a very useful idea. [/QUOTE]

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