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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7325185" data-attributes="member: 82504">OK I am still arguing with myself: The skald is given these and it almost looks like it is instead of knowing rituals themselves... They are effectively 3 or 4 rituals within a limited locale (which is a real limit unless your game is set primarily in a civilized domain where your polytheistic temples and lords and those who revere bards hold sway):Ritual that summons a household and conjures mealsRitual to summon mountsRitual that summons servants And the only odd ones are a daily freebie ritual they do not even have to learn... and a flavorful but not necessarily potent route to being taken seriously when communicating with the local lords.Remove the freebie ritual access and the effects arent really beyond them having a set of social cantrips....err 3 or 4 practices As a group and including the free rituals I think calling them a Feat or replacement for bardic rituals works albeit perhaps slightly weaker, and it definitely makes the skald more Martial.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 7325185, member: 82504"] OK I am still arguing with myself: The skald is given these and it almost looks like it is instead of knowing rituals themselves... They are effectively 3 or 4 rituals within a limited locale (which is a real limit unless your game is set primarily in a civilized domain where your polytheistic temples and lords and those who revere bards hold sway): Ritual that summons a household and conjures meals Ritual to summon mounts Ritual that summons servants And the only odd ones are a daily freebie ritual they do not even have to learn... and a flavorful but not necessarily potent route to being taken seriously when communicating with the local lords. Remove the freebie ritual access and the effects arent really beyond them having a set of social cantrips....err 3 or 4 practices As a group and including the free rituals I think calling them a Feat or replacement for bardic rituals works albeit perhaps slightly weaker, and it definitely makes the skald more Martial. [/QUOTE]

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