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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 1277275" data-attributes="member: 114">The 8th level Polar Ray spell is sometimes considered a bit underpowered now - what is it, ranged touch ray of cold against one target, doing leveld6 damage - say 16d6 at 16th level. In comparison a wizard could use a 7th level slot to cast maximised empowered scorching ray and get 3 bolts doing 24+2d6 each.Comparing 16d6 (ave 56?) with 72+6d6 doesn't look too great. The only advantage polar ray has in this scenario is that it will be less affected by Resist Elements which would eliminate nearly all the scorching ray damage.Comparing polar ray with horrid wilting seems like a nonevent - horrid wilting does the same damage to multiple opponents with a Fort ST for half and no spells to resist its damage. Seems much more useful to me.So I nominate Polar Ray.I also nominate the 4th level Illusionary Wall which allows you to create a permanent illusion of a wall. That's all. Pretty feeble eh?Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 1277275, member: 114"] The 8th level Polar Ray spell is sometimes considered a bit underpowered now - what is it, ranged touch ray of cold against one target, doing leveld6 damage - say 16d6 at 16th level. In comparison a wizard could use a 7th level slot to cast maximised empowered scorching ray and get 3 bolts doing 24+2d6 each. Comparing 16d6 (ave 56?) with 72+6d6 doesn't look too great. The only advantage polar ray has in this scenario is that it will be less affected by Resist Elements which would eliminate nearly all the scorching ray damage. Comparing polar ray with horrid wilting seems like a nonevent - horrid wilting does the same damage to multiple opponents with a Fort ST for half and no spells to resist its damage. Seems much more useful to me. So I nominate [B]Polar Ray[/B]. I also nominate the 4th level [B]Illusionary Wall[/B] which allows you to create a permanent illusion of a wall. That's all. Pretty feeble eh? Cheers [/QUOTE]

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