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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1277670" data-attributes="member: 9002">Answering the Initial QuestionThe following spells, in 3.5, are, I think, on the outer limit of the power band.&nbsp; Most of them are talked about alot, no surprises.1)&nbsp; Magic Missile.&nbsp; Just does everything, all the time.2)&nbsp; Silence.&nbsp; 3)&nbsp; Enlarge PersonComments:These are all low level spells. Magic Missile is the sacred cow; it needs a damage cap or to be downgraded in some way.&nbsp; This is pretty obvious, also obvious it does not &quot;unbalance&quot; the game to any significant degree.&nbsp; It's just better than a 1st level spell should be.&nbsp; It's like a level 1.5 level spell.Enlarge Person is in the category of &quot;duh,&quot; because the benefits of size for fighter-types is pretty overwhelming, particularly when you get to higher levels (and have more feats with which to do horrible things with reach).&nbsp; It ramps up extremely well.&nbsp; It's one of those 1st level spells that a high level character always wants cast on him, if it's not been already achieved in some way (ring of permenant enlarge, wondrous item of enlarge 3x/day).&nbsp; There are not many other spells that ramp up so well from 1st level.Silence is perhaps the most overpowered, and effects game play at times.&nbsp; A dedicated silence-caster will shut down opposing spellcasters completely, unless the GM goes out of his way to have &quot;silenced&quot; versions of spells prepped, etc. and uses other tactics.&nbsp; No other 2nd level spell, on it's own, forces this sort of pre-preparation; telling me it's very possibly too good.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 1277670, member: 9002"] [b]Answering the Initial Question[/b] The following spells, in 3.5, are, I think, on the outer limit of the power band. Most of them are talked about alot, no surprises. 1) Magic Missile. Just does everything, all the time. 2) Silence. 3) Enlarge Person Comments: These are all low level spells. Magic Missile is the sacred cow; it needs a damage cap or to be downgraded in some way. This is pretty obvious, also obvious it does not "unbalance" the game to any significant degree. It's just better than a 1st level spell should be. It's like a level 1.5 level spell. Enlarge Person is in the category of "duh," because the benefits of size for fighter-types is pretty overwhelming, particularly when you get to higher levels (and have more feats with which to do horrible things with reach). It ramps up extremely well. It's one of those 1st level spells that a high level character always wants cast on him, if it's not been already achieved in some way (ring of permenant enlarge, wondrous item of enlarge 3x/day). There are not many other spells that ramp up so well from 1st level. Silence is perhaps the most overpowered, and effects game play at times. A dedicated silence-caster will shut down opposing spellcasters completely, unless the GM goes out of his way to have "silenced" versions of spells prepped, etc. and uses other tactics. No other 2nd level spell, on it's own, forces this sort of pre-preparation; telling me it's very possibly too good. [/QUOTE]

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