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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 3795240" data-attributes="member: 29252">Re: Polymorph line:There's three basic approaches that will usually make the polymorph line balanceable while still in the game:1) A different way to Summon.  You don't become a modified form of you; you become that creature as listed in the Monster Manual, minus whatever the version of the spell wouldn't give you (but not plus your segment of that).  So if your Wizard polymorphs the Rogue into a Hydra, the Rogue does not get sneak attack on each bite.  If your Monk has Mage Armor on when you Polymorph him into a bird, the Mage Armor is surpressed for the duration; and so on.  Damage taken by the polymorphed form is applied to the mage afterwards, and vice-versa.  If you Shapechange into an Efreeti, you don't get Wish as a Spell-like ability (nor do you keep your Gnomish spell-like abilities or Wizard spellcasting).  Can combine with 2 if desired.2) Specific forms only.  There's variants of this, from each Polymorph spell is individually researched and prepared (often at different spell levels), and turns the subject into a specific creature based on the spell, to each spell gives a listing of specific creatures it can turn a target into (similar to the Summon Monster line).  Can be combined with 1 if desired.3) Mostly illusion.  The spells can give you some number of selectable abilities available through the spell - turning the subject into "a balor" is mostly a special effect.  It's more of a matter of... "Well, with your caster level, and that version, you can get two of: +3 Natural Armor, Fly 60 (average), Swim 30, Burrow 10, a 1d6 natural attack (can be taken multiple times), +4 Dex (shape bonus), +4 Strength (shape bonus), or +4 Con (shape bonus), or move your size up or down one category (can be taken multiple times for multiple size categories).  Also, make a Disguise check to fool everyone into thinking you are that."</blockquote>

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