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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magus Coeruleus" data-source="post: 1065143" data-attributes="member: 1704">I find the Listen/Move Silently rules a bit lacking in some respects.  My main gripe is it's not clear (to me, anyway) what the DC should be for hearing someone who's not moving at all.  The closest I can tell is just the Move Silently check, but this assumes the target is moving up to normal speed.  Should the DC be higher if the target isn't moving at all?Consider this:  People whispering has a DC of 15.  A normal person with a Dex 10 will usually set the Listen DC to about 10 with a Move Silently check.  Okay, I can understand it being harder to hear people whispering than it is to hear a commoner trying to move quietly, but I can't accept that it's also harder than hearing a commoner sitting in a chair doing nothing but breathing (not even whispering).This isn't even necessarily an issue of trying to be quiet.  Sometimes very little noise is made because somebody happens to be pretty still.  I think it should compound, however, if you're keeping still AND trying to be quiet.What do you people do when your PCs listen at the door and there's someone inside who is doing nothing much (sleeping, daydreaming, reading a book, etc.) or who expects them and is standing very still trying not to be heard and NOT taking any moves?MC</blockquote>