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<blockquote data-quote="PattonDM" data-source="post: 1065626" data-attributes="member: 13236">This question came up recently in my game.I set it to Base DC of 15 (whispering) and modified it based on circumstances.+2 for Door+1 DC/10ft-4/+4 per size category etc.+5 standing still-4 through +4 background noiseIn my case, a group of loud, well lit PC's were trampling through the Underdark.&nbsp; Drow were waiting in ambush.I set the encounter distance at 200ft (the distance the drow could spot the 6 players holding torches).&nbsp; The players had a max range of 60ft darkvision so they couldn't spot the Drow, but I did have them roll a listen check each round starting at DC 36 (+5 standing still, -4 silent cave, +20 distance).&nbsp; The next round, some of the drow crept closer as the players continued on unaware (failed listen).&nbsp; I rolled a move silently check v.s.PC's listen to hear the approaching Drow and 1 PC druid made the roll.&nbsp; The Drow and Druid began a surprise round while the other PC's wondered what all the fuss was about.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="PattonDM, post: 1065626, member: 13236"] This question came up recently in my game. I set it to Base DC of 15 (whispering) and modified it based on circumstances. +2 for Door +1 DC/10ft -4/+4 per size category etc. +5 standing still -4 through +4 background noise In my case, a group of loud, well lit PC's were trampling through the Underdark. Drow were waiting in ambush. I set the encounter distance at 200ft (the distance the drow could spot the 6 players holding torches). The players had a max range of 60ft darkvision so they couldn't spot the Drow, but I did have them roll a listen check each round starting at DC 36 (+5 standing still, -4 silent cave, +20 distance). The next round, some of the drow crept closer as the players continued on unaware (failed listen). I rolled a move silently check v.s.PC's listen to hear the approaching Drow and 1 PC druid made the roll. The Drow and Druid began a surprise round while the other PC's wondered what all the fuss was about. [/QUOTE]

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