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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9491883" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Interesting video a bit more clever than most. [MEDIA=youtube]1LfY47mLEko[/MEDIA] People have crossed the Atlantic in all sorts of boats and ships since 1492. Vikings also got to Vinland 11th century. It's plausible a Roman vessel could reach the America's from Canary Islands or Morrocco. Espicially one way or getting swept by a storm. Arriving alive is a bit harder.  This video is a bit more rules lawyer. Rone fell 476- 480 in the west (debatable a bit later).   Roman state survived in the east however until 1453. Rump states survived until the 1460s in Morea and Trebizond. Byzantine is a modern term based on poltics denying the ERE political legitimacy. They saw themselves as Roman and have a direct link politically to Rome.  39 years from the fall of Constantinople to Columbus. Survivor states 30 years. We are now into living Roman's born in a Roman state being adults that could have reached the America's.  Thus excludes people born under Ottoman rule who could plausibly claim to be Roman. Some of them on remote islands claimed that into the 19th century. Mainland Greeks were helenes they were Roman's!!!! However the plot thickens. While the successor states fell in  the1460s not all of their possessions did. The last remnants of them survived until 1479. A Crimean fort formerly Trebizond also lasted until 1476 falling to the Tatars. The last independent Roman's were plausibly born in the 1470s as the forts had towns as well. Remote places in Morea were also only nominally under Ottoman control eg Mani peninsula. Columbus had a multi ethnic boat crews but the last Roman's born in 1470s means a living Roman in good health up until their 50s could have crossed the Atlantic up until the 1530's. Basically a 50 year period post Columbus or 25 years if you use the Fall of Constantinople. The oldest of them could stretch that out a few decades but it's getting a little absurd (well moreso). More of a thought experiment but a bit different  from the more typical Roman boat swept across the Atlantic scenario.</blockquote>

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