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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kalendraf" data-source="post: 1913762" data-attributes="member: 3433">Note I said this was only "If you are up close to an animal casting a spell".  I should have probably been more clear.  By close I really mean a very close distance such as an adjacent square 5' away.  If you are that close to an animal and focusing your attention on it, I think even the an untrained person would become suspicious when the see an animal do something really strange.  If you are that close and can see a squirrel curl its 4th claw on each hand and slightly bend it's wrists then lock it's gaze at you, I don't think it would necessarily require a spellcraft to identify it as odd.  Then when his armor starts feeling burning hot to the touch, I'd say the Mr. Untrained has a heckuva good chance of making a connection that the squirrel may have just cast a spell at him.I suspect there will likely be no convincing you but I'll try again...If there is a human character standing next to a human and an animal, and they both cast a spell, it will be easier for that character to notice the human's spellcasting motion than it is to detect the animal's motion.  The human suddenly starts doing odd motions with his fingers and hands and says wierd words.  The animal moves its claws/wings/whatever and makes a few animal sounds.  Unless you are familiar with that animal's normal behavior, detecting a spellcasting animal is simply going to be harder than it is to detect the human's spellcasting.</blockquote>

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