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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1923119" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>Okay, this is a line of logic I can buy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> But this doesn't support the idea that an animal spellcasting sounds like an ordinary animal does. I still assert that it'd sound like an animal trying to make the sounds of humanoid spellcasting to the best of its ability.How do wizards and aboleths have anything to do with Natural Spell? Natural Spell allows spellcasting while wildshaped, by a druid. The fact that an aboleth can take levels in wizard is entirely beside the point. Are you asserting that because an aboleth can take levels in wizard, and thus spellcast, that there must be an "aboleth spellcasting"? Even if this were true (and I don't believe it is, more below,) it wouldn't have any bearing on a druid trying to spellcast while wildshaped into a squirrel, because regardless of what aboleths do or don't do, squirrels don't spellcast.</p><p></p><p>Regarding the aboleth, my flavor text for how the rules work is that spellcasting is a universal craft. The verbal components are more about cadence than language. The somatic components are the tracing of mystical symbols. So an aboleth spellcaster would use different words to arrive at the same cadences of spellcasting, and different appendages to trace the same runes. The same is true of a druid wildshaped into a squirrel. He'll be chirping in such a way that he achieves the proper cadences, and gesturing with his little paw to trace out the proper runes.</p><p></p><p>Now a fighter might not know a <em>Fireball</em> from a <em>Lightning Bolt</em>, but if he sees a squirrel waving its paw around drawing runes in the air, and chirping in an odd, stilted fashion, he's going to know something's going on.</p><p></p><p>Admittedly, this is my own visualization, and hardly RAW. But then, I believe the RAW is already quite clear on what Natural Spell does and doesn't do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 1923119, member: 707"] Okay, this is a line of logic I can buy. :) But this doesn't support the idea that an animal spellcasting sounds like an ordinary animal does. I still assert that it'd sound like an animal trying to make the sounds of humanoid spellcasting to the best of its ability.How do wizards and aboleths have anything to do with Natural Spell? Natural Spell allows spellcasting while wildshaped, by a druid. The fact that an aboleth can take levels in wizard is entirely beside the point. Are you asserting that because an aboleth can take levels in wizard, and thus spellcast, that there must be an "aboleth spellcasting"? Even if this were true (and I don't believe it is, more below,) it wouldn't have any bearing on a druid trying to spellcast while wildshaped into a squirrel, because regardless of what aboleths do or don't do, squirrels don't spellcast. Regarding the aboleth, my flavor text for how the rules work is that spellcasting is a universal craft. The verbal components are more about cadence than language. The somatic components are the tracing of mystical symbols. So an aboleth spellcaster would use different words to arrive at the same cadences of spellcasting, and different appendages to trace the same runes. The same is true of a druid wildshaped into a squirrel. He'll be chirping in such a way that he achieves the proper cadences, and gesturing with his little paw to trace out the proper runes. Now a fighter might not know a [i]Fireball[/i] from a [i]Lightning Bolt[/i], but if he sees a squirrel waving its paw around drawing runes in the air, and chirping in an odd, stilted fashion, he's going to know something's going on. Admittedly, this is my own visualization, and hardly RAW. But then, I believe the RAW is already quite clear on what Natural Spell does and doesn't do. [/QUOTE]
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