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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9188280" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>I watched the show last night, and I largely agree with [USER=7035894]@Clint_L[/USER] and [USER=40176]@MarkB[/USER] ... but with a few caveats. I was asked by a friend this morning if the show was "good." And I responded ... eh, it's complicated.</p><p></p><p>I should start by saying that the acting was, of course, excellent. And the set designs and costumes (especially the retro TVA sets) are amazing. There were times I freeze-framed just so I could read the posters in the background. </p><p></p><p>But I think that a lot of the praise of the show was simply a function of the lowered expectations people had coming in. After all, in the <em>last year</em>, the only MCU show we've had has been <em>Secret Invasion. </em>Really. She-Hulk aired last August (!!!). And with all the dire news coming out of Marvel over the last year or so, I think people wanted a win. And Tom Hiddleston is charming!</p><p></p><p>Simply by virtue of not being <em>Secret Invasion</em>, and by having Loki (and Morbius, underplayed with alacrity by Owen Wilson), this show was always going to get a pass. But the last two episodes ... they were just treading water. The plot, such as it was, didn't actually amount to anything. Compare that with the first season, which was full of forward momentum and surprises. Here, other than a nice plug for Mickey Dees, I can't imagine thinking about it at all. A lot of signifiers, signifying nothing. And while some of the time travel escapades were fun (such as Loki being the one who "killed" Loki in order to save him), the rush of the finale reduced anything that could have been meaningful to a blip on the screen and deus ex machina. Compare and contrast the episode of Doctor Who (<em>Heaven Sent</em>) where you feel the weight (and wait) of using time travel / rebirth to accomplish a task that takes a long time to this, which is just reduced to assumptions or a title card that reads, "Centuries later." Did that change Loki? I mean, it had to, right? And yet, the <em>character</em> changed before that. </p><p></p><p>Eh. Look, I don't want to yuck anyone's yum. The show was <em>fine, </em>and certainly a massive step up from the last MCU show, and I like seeing that crew together again. But it was a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing. IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9188280, member: 7023840"] I watched the show last night, and I largely agree with [USER=7035894]@Clint_L[/USER] and [USER=40176]@MarkB[/USER] ... but with a few caveats. I was asked by a friend this morning if the show was "good." And I responded ... eh, it's complicated. I should start by saying that the acting was, of course, excellent. And the set designs and costumes (especially the retro TVA sets) are amazing. There were times I freeze-framed just so I could read the posters in the background. But I think that a lot of the praise of the show was simply a function of the lowered expectations people had coming in. After all, in the [I]last year[/I], the only MCU show we've had has been [I]Secret Invasion. [/I]Really. She-Hulk aired last August (!!!). And with all the dire news coming out of Marvel over the last year or so, I think people wanted a win. And Tom Hiddleston is charming! Simply by virtue of not being [I]Secret Invasion[/I], and by having Loki (and Morbius, underplayed with alacrity by Owen Wilson), this show was always going to get a pass. But the last two episodes ... they were just treading water. The plot, such as it was, didn't actually amount to anything. Compare that with the first season, which was full of forward momentum and surprises. Here, other than a nice plug for Mickey Dees, I can't imagine thinking about it at all. A lot of signifiers, signifying nothing. And while some of the time travel escapades were fun (such as Loki being the one who "killed" Loki in order to save him), the rush of the finale reduced anything that could have been meaningful to a blip on the screen and deus ex machina. Compare and contrast the episode of Doctor Who ([I]Heaven Sent[/I]) where you feel the weight (and wait) of using time travel / rebirth to accomplish a task that takes a long time to this, which is just reduced to assumptions or a title card that reads, "Centuries later." Did that change Loki? I mean, it had to, right? And yet, the [I]character[/I] changed before that. Eh. Look, I don't want to yuck anyone's yum. The show was [I]fine, [/I]and certainly a massive step up from the last MCU show, and I like seeing that crew together again. But it was a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing. IMO. [/QUOTE]
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