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Lone Wolf sends Cease & Desist letters to anyone using the term 'Army Builder'
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<blockquote data-quote="JohnRTroy" data-source="post: 5078343" data-attributes="member: 2732"><p>Two memes seem to be creeping up. The first whether or not Lone Wolf went too far. That's debatable (which is what we are doing).</p><p></p><p>The second thing is people are offended by the term "Army Builder" now being a trademark. While I've discussed this before, the following other terms are registered trademarks: Closet Builder, Profit Builder, Pipe Builder, Turf Builder, and Blossom Builder. These are also "common phrases", yet they were approved as well. Combining common words to make a trademark is a practice that goes back almost a century (as I said before--Coca-Cola). There are limits to the restrictions of Trademark law so it's not trying to restrict free speech.</p><p></p><p>It doesn't sound like they did anything "sneaky" because others have done it. Based on Rob's statements, it sounds like before the "5 year period" after approval they did inform others. And although somebody said Army Builder was "google bombed", I think having an official site and a registered trademark is the reason why Army Builder shows their site as number one, because it was popular, not because of the recent events.</p><p></p><p>Legal notices are sent all the time. We don't normally see everything. If every company decided to publically air dirty laundry, none of you would ever enjoy gaming because people would keep getting caught up in he said/she said nonsense. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Only if we're have eidetic memories and are all sociopaths or psychopaths. We're not. </p><p></p><p>To myself, this is a tempest in a teapot. The only thing that happened is one company probably got a little too overzealous, and another company decided to air that in public (which was bad form IMO). Nobody got sued, nobody got hurt, no lives were lost. (ENWorld IMO is actually exacerbating the issue by putting this on the front page.)</p><p></p><p>ETA: Ah, I see we are now resorting to 4chan style postings now...jeez...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnRTroy, post: 5078343, member: 2732"] Two memes seem to be creeping up. The first whether or not Lone Wolf went too far. That's debatable (which is what we are doing). The second thing is people are offended by the term "Army Builder" now being a trademark. While I've discussed this before, the following other terms are registered trademarks: Closet Builder, Profit Builder, Pipe Builder, Turf Builder, and Blossom Builder. These are also "common phrases", yet they were approved as well. Combining common words to make a trademark is a practice that goes back almost a century (as I said before--Coca-Cola). There are limits to the restrictions of Trademark law so it's not trying to restrict free speech. It doesn't sound like they did anything "sneaky" because others have done it. Based on Rob's statements, it sounds like before the "5 year period" after approval they did inform others. And although somebody said Army Builder was "google bombed", I think having an official site and a registered trademark is the reason why Army Builder shows their site as number one, because it was popular, not because of the recent events. Legal notices are sent all the time. We don't normally see everything. If every company decided to publically air dirty laundry, none of you would ever enjoy gaming because people would keep getting caught up in he said/she said nonsense. Only if we're have eidetic memories and are all sociopaths or psychopaths. We're not. To myself, this is a tempest in a teapot. The only thing that happened is one company probably got a little too overzealous, and another company decided to air that in public (which was bad form IMO). Nobody got sued, nobody got hurt, no lives were lost. (ENWorld IMO is actually exacerbating the issue by putting this on the front page.) ETA: Ah, I see we are now resorting to 4chan style postings now...jeez... [/QUOTE]
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