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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8266568" data-attributes="member: 93670">No it's still true because that number is significantly less than both the number of spells they can know or are reasonably likely to have in a spell book as well as less than the entire class list.  The spells you are pinning your position on are generally too niche to bother preparing even if they are an option meaning the caster is going to be preparing spells that will at least have a good chance of providing some use during the current session rather than nothing but niche spells that can poorly solve a generally not very significant or pressing problem.[USER=7019027]@Asisreo[/USER]  already hit the very short partial list you gave. If that's the full list it suggests casters are very unfinished by covering such a small range of spell levelsGo ahead list off the whole batch of <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells" target="_blank">specific spells</a> you think support your position of the disparity of 5e's LWQF across all levels being justified,  Give us  a challenge & state why for each spell rather than just listing spells if you think your position is so strong rather than making us guess. I'll give you credit for trying to hook in something new as part of this point rather than a point on its own though.  On top of everything [USER=7019027]@Asisreo[/USER]  noted above those 15 spells are also a big reduction from the past.  You can look at it in detail <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iY1uvVwnZ-bKoGBXE7GxE3w-SZXxy0jaFkxjHDW1PNA/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">here</a> because the loss of flexibility is significantly more than slots alone would suggest  as you had things like preparing a single cast of second level knock at mid to high levels had near zero opportunity cost being in one of the 4 2nd level slots while in 5e every niche spell prepared has the exact same opportunity cost as a bread & butter staple spell.   There are a huge amount less actual spell slots at nearly every level in 5e than there were in the past too as one more attempt at countering LFQW to add onto the pileas to <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/tiny-hut" target="_blank">tiny hut</a> itself, it's not yet been poited out that that the spell only exists on the bard & wizard lists</blockquote>

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