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<blockquote data-quote="ph0rk" data-source="post: 8267212" data-attributes="member: 16266">Linked post is argued poorly.Disintegrate is an option as early as 11, at which point a sword and board fighter with str 20 and a longsword is managing .65*(4.5+5)*3, or 18.5 damage a round on average, sans crits. Various subclasses have ways of boosting this, but they run out of juice. This is less damage than an all-day eldritch blaster, and does not have the possibility of an instant kill to some targets as does disintegrate, or the ability to rip down walls of force or similar.that same 6th level slot used to cast magic missile with no other funny business (school of evocation, etc) will average 28 damage, unless one is fool enough to cast it something that looks ready and able to cast shield.Anyway, looking at pure damage output when comparing the fighter to anything else is pretty foolish (though, add in post-TCoE bladesinger and you’ve got a race), in 5e the problem arises from being able to put out quite adequate damage while also have world bending powers. The fighter is essentially last here, a Captain America alongside an Iron Man, Thor, Dr. Strange, and Scarlet Witch.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ph0rk, post: 8267212, member: 16266"] Linked post is argued poorly. Disintegrate is an option as early as 11, at which point a sword and board fighter with str 20 and a longsword is managing .65*(4.5+5)*3, or 18.5 damage a round [I]on average, [/I]sans crits. Various subclasses have ways of boosting this, but they run out of juice. This is less damage than an all-day eldritch blaster, and does not have the possibility of an instant kill to some targets as does disintegrate, or the ability to rip down walls of force or similar. that same 6th level slot used to cast magic missile with no other funny business (school of evocation, etc) will [I]average[/I] 28 damage, unless one is fool enough to cast it something that looks ready and able to cast shield. Anyway, looking at pure damage output when comparing the fighter to anything else is pretty foolish (though, add in post-TCoE bladesinger and you’ve got a race), in 5e the problem arises from being able to put out quite adequate damage while also have world bending powers. The fighter is essentially last here, a Captain America alongside an Iron Man, Thor, Dr. Strange, and Scarlet Witch. [/QUOTE]

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