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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 4106135" data-attributes="member: 32164">Well, I'll post another idea I had, which is very simple, and draws its inspiration from the Condition Track in Star Wars Saga Edition.When you go into negative hit points, you receive a "persistent" injury, and drop down 1 level on the condition track. It takes one week to heal one level on the Condition Track. The conditions are:Uninjured: Fine. No penalties. Even characters who are "bloodied" are "uninjured."Injured: -1 to all skills, attacks, defenses, and ability checks. Movement reduced 1 square.Wounded: -2 to all skills, defenses, and ability checks. Movement reduced 2 squares.Maimed: -5 to all skills, defenses, and ability checks. Movement reduced 3 squares.Disabled: -10 to all skills, defenses, and ability checks. Movement reduced 4 squares.Dead: Deceased.Now this IS, in some sense, a death spiral mechanic. However, taken with LostSoul's injury box idea, you could allow the player to raise the long-term injury flag if and only if he decided the risk/reward was worth it.So you might see people taking injuries that gave them -2 for a week or so, but not going further. I imagine people would only risk beoming disabled under desperate circumstances or when they were pretty sure they'd have some post-adventure downtime to recover.Being -2 to all your checks and defenses (except saving throws, of course) may hurt, but it's hardly crippling. It's at -5 where it turns into a death spiral.You could monkey with it of course. For instance, by requiring it to be a massive damage (in excess of your fort defense) in addition to reducing you to negative hit points. Or by making it conditional on a failed save after recovering from negative hit points, or limiting it to hitting negative hit points when you're out of healing surges, or some combination.I may mess around with something like this after I get familiar with the 4E rules. If it interests my players.</blockquote>

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