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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eriktheguy" data-source="post: 4837709" data-attributes="member: 83662">Why would a rogue ever take the Longsword Finesse feat that allows you to use longwords as a light blade (but lose one die of sneak attack damage)? For the same feat the rogue could become proficient with a double sword. The rogue can use all of its powers an sneak attacks through the light blade end of the weapon, just like an eladrin with longsword finesse. Moreover the rogue gains a free +1 bonus to AC for having a defensive weapon (which stacks with 2 weapon defense) and does not lose a die of sneak attack damage. Lets look at the bonuses conferred to a rogue who is moving up from a short sword using a few different feats. I am assuming medium size.Shortsword to longsword by 'longsword finesse' feat:-must be eladrin-lose 1d6 from sneak attacks (OK, lets be honest, 1d8 from sneak attacks)-[W] increased from 1d6 to 1d8Shortsword to double sword by 'weapon proficiency, double sword'-any race-no loss of sneak attacks-[W] increased from 1d6 to 1d8-free +1 untyped bonus to AC (stacks with two-weapon defense)Shortsword to rapier by 'weapon proficiency, rapier' feat:-any race-no loss of sneak attack-[W] increased from 1d6 to 1d8As you can see, double weapon is better than longsword finesse by far. Additionally, even proficiency in the humble rapier beats out the longsword (if you are willing to sacrifice the little versatile property). Is there a reason that Wizards decided to cripple a rogues sneak attack with this feat? Did they really think that allowing rogues to spend a feat to change [W] from d6 to d8 was too much, even though any other class can increase [W] with a superior weapon?Needless to say, this also makes the kukri and the parrying dagger obsolete for anything but pure dagger builds.Also, I don't think that making the off-hand of the double sword a light blade was a brilliant idea. It might add some flavor to fighters that want to use a variety of powers, but it allows rogues to get increased weapon die and +1 AC with  single feat.I am definitely house-ruling that the longsword finesse feat does not limit sneak attacks. What a stupid call...To fix the double sword I will release two weapons. One is heavy blade, light blade without the defensive property, the other is heavy blade, heavy blade with the defensive property.</blockquote>

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