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<blockquote data-quote="eriktheguy" data-source="post: 4837876" data-attributes="member: 83662"><p>The rapier is not weak. It is the rogue's solution to a longsword. Other characters get</p><p>longsword:+3 prof, 1d8 damage</p><p>Rogues need light blades, they get</p><p>shortsword: +3 prof, 1d6 damage</p><p></p><p>Other characters get</p><p>(superior weapon) bastard sword, +3 prof, 1d10 damage</p><p>Rogues get</p><p>(superior weapon) rapier, +3 prof, 1d8 damage</p><p></p><p>The rapier is the best light blade damage-wise, and allows rogues to essentially upgrade short swords by taking a feat. The rapier is a good deal for rogues in the same way that a bastard sword is a good deal for fighters.</p><p></p><p>Then why do eladrin that take the longsword instead of the rapier get a weapon that is worse than a rapeir? Eladrin are supposed to be masters of longswords, yet a rapier deals more damage in their hands? The only choices they have to make the longsword better is Eladrin soldier (made obsolete by weapon focus at paragon tier) or to wield the longsword two-handed to take advantage of the versatile property, which alienates their two-weapon fighting feats. These are lame options and the rapier is still much better.</p><p></p><p>I don't think that double weapons are too good. They get the defensive property because they are superior, and they get a bonus to the off-hand damage in return for forcing the player to staple two weapons together. longsword + short sword becomes two long swords balanced together. The only unbalanced factor I see is that the double sword is a light blade and can be abused by rogues.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eriktheguy, post: 4837876, member: 83662"] The rapier is not weak. It is the rogue's solution to a longsword. Other characters get longsword:+3 prof, 1d8 damage Rogues need light blades, they get shortsword: +3 prof, 1d6 damage Other characters get (superior weapon) bastard sword, +3 prof, 1d10 damage Rogues get (superior weapon) rapier, +3 prof, 1d8 damage The rapier is the best light blade damage-wise, and allows rogues to essentially upgrade short swords by taking a feat. The rapier is a good deal for rogues in the same way that a bastard sword is a good deal for fighters. Then why do eladrin that take the longsword instead of the rapier get a weapon that is worse than a rapeir? Eladrin are supposed to be masters of longswords, yet a rapier deals more damage in their hands? The only choices they have to make the longsword better is Eladrin soldier (made obsolete by weapon focus at paragon tier) or to wield the longsword two-handed to take advantage of the versatile property, which alienates their two-weapon fighting feats. These are lame options and the rapier is still much better. I don't think that double weapons are too good. They get the defensive property because they are superior, and they get a bonus to the off-hand damage in return for forcing the player to staple two weapons together. longsword + short sword becomes two long swords balanced together. The only unbalanced factor I see is that the double sword is a light blade and can be abused by rogues. [/QUOTE]
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